Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!ateng!chip From: chip@ateng.com (Chip Salzenberg) Newsgroups: news.groups Subject: Re: Well, use it... Message-ID: <25770172.10210@ateng.com> Date: 1 Dec 89 22:55:44 GMT References: <7551@fear+loathing.UUCP> <128533@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> <17386@umn-cs.CS.UMN.EDU> Organization: A T Engineering, Tampa, FL Lines: 27 According to hougen@umn-cs.CS.UMN.EDU (Dean Hougen): >It is a group, despite the attempted sabotage of certain net.tyrants. To be excruciatingly accurate, it is a group that has poor propagation because many sysadmins consider it Evil and Rude. Groups that don't propagate are failures. But, yes, they are still groups. >If you are seeing little or nothing at your sight, start doing some >searching for the nut who is strangling your feed, and when you find >him/her start applying preasure to get the line opened up. Applying pressure on a distant sysadmin, who may very well own the system he or she administers, is practically impossible. >Usenet is for the users, dammit! Whatever Usenet is _for_, it is unarguably _of_ the owners of the machines that carry it. Which leads to this maxim: +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Usenet: A network of the owners, by the admins, for the users. | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- You may redistribute this article only to those who may freely do likewise. Chip Salzenberg at A T Engineering; or "The Usenet, in a very real sense, does not exist." Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com