Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!snorkelwacker!bloom-beacon!eru!luth!sunic!enea!sommar From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog) Newsgroups: news.groups Subject: Re: CALL FOR DISCUSSION: comp.lang.cobol Message-ID: <522@enea.se> Date: 3 Dec 89 22:45:53 GMT References: <480@enea.se> Organization: Enea Data AB, Sweden Lines: 42 OK, the discussion period is over, and I'm about to issue the call for votes. Some closing comments from my part. There have been three sorts of comments: 1) In favour. 2) Questioning. Is there traffic enough to justify the group? 3) Negative. Cobol is evil. There have been several articles and some personal mail too in the first group, including a coinciding proposal to form alt.cobol. They are many enough to encourage me to go on and issue a call for votes. We have, thankfully, not seen much of category 3. I did actually receive a mail from a guy who thought that Cobol was evil and that he would vote no because of that. (Bill Thacker, what do you think of that?) Lucky for him and I don't share that attitude. If I had, I would rmgroup comp.lang.c straight away. So the second category which I have said things like "he might get the votes, but will he get the traffic?" This is a very valid point. Now, I have seen sufficiently many Cobol articles to believe there will be some traffic, but I would be lying if I said that I predicted 500 articles a month. Another issue that has been questioned is that being the most commonly used language does not justify a newsgroup. What justifies is that someone wants to talk about it. Again, this is a very valid point. Some of the supporters have intimated that they will post. The common problem is of course that the vote (or survey) gives an indication on how many that will read the group, not on how many that will post, and how much. Nevertheless, if comp.lang.cobol only gets 5 articles/month the group may still be worthwhile to those working with Cobol. As it is today, when they (we) run into a problem they have to go comp.lang.misc, which might be a peaceful place. It might also be the battlefield for a language war with tons of articles. In that situation comp.lang.cobol would be a good place to ask your question in without drowning in the rest. So, I will go for it. If you think traffic etc is too low, you can always vote no. -- Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com