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From: mm@cloud9.Stratus.COM (Mike Mahler)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: Re: wandering domestic cats (was shooting cats)
Message-ID: <9727@cloud9.Stratus.COM>
Date: 29 Nov 89 19:08:33 GMT
References: <823@wrgate.WR.TEK.COM> <884@eecea.eece.ksu.edu> <835@wrgate.WR.TEK.COM>
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In article <835@wrgate.WR.TEK.COM>, denise@dadla.WR.TEK.COM (Denise Caire) writes:
> In article <884@eecea.eece.ksu.edu> terry@eecea.eece.ksu.edu (Terry Hull) writes:
> >In article <823@wrgate.WR.TEK.COM> denise@dadla.WR.TEK.COM (Denise Caire) writes:
> >
> >>Give me a good
> >>suggestion about how I can let him out and keep him in my yard.
> 
> And still none can give me a good suggestion for this!

    My neighbor has two (thorough bred - na na na na na) cats that she
    has on LEASHES and they play around her porch.

> >>The nature of a cat is different than a dog, as you mention later.
> >>To keep him in the garage or house all day when no one is home is
> >>cruel.  A dog might like it fine, but not a cat.

    You've been reading too many Garfield cartoons.  I've met
    many people who have "indoor cats" that are beautiful, happy
    and their owners have no problems with them (and they don't
    get either nor help to fill up the animal shelter gas
    chamber with more kittens).

> >Cruel?  Why is it cruel?  I have a very nice 2 year old female Persian
>                                                                 ^^^^^^^
> Gee, I'm impressed, a thourough bred. 

    I don't think anyone was trying to impress you.

> My alley cat likes it outside
> where nature intended him to be, not cooped up in a house all day.

    Funny I don't remember seeing a Mutual Of Omaha's Wild Kingdom
    show about the dreaded and feared Alley Cat and it's natural habitat.

> As previously stated, I don't like the litter box in the house, nor
> do I like idea of claws being sharpened on Lord only knows what?

    You mean "Lord only knows what" type of things like MY cars tires
    or the paint on it's roof/hood?  

> >cat that has been outside on the ground for a total of about 15
> >minutes.  Even during that time we were watching her to make sure she
> >did not run away or get into trouble.  The cat loves watching things
> 
> Are you home all day with her to watch her all the time?  I'm not.

    Fine, so let someone else deal with your cats destructiveness, right?

    If you can't trust your pet in your house alone when you are
    not there than perhaps you shouldn't have it maybe?

> >that go on outdoors and she loves to play with the unfortuante insects
> >that get into our house, but she has never tried to bolt through the
> >door when we open it.  Even when it is nice outside, the only reason
> 
> Why is that?  She definately sounds retarded or drugged.

    Not at all, it sounds like a cat that has learned respect through
    training and discipline.  I wonder how you'd feel if you came
    into your driveway at night and there were 3 or 4 dogs in a pack
    in your driveway?  Would you be a little frightened maybe since
    you don't know if the dogs are going to attack or not?  After all
    they are only doing what NATURE intended them to do and by your
    "logic" their owners are not irresponsible (even if they ARE
    subject to fines?  I know cats aren't covered by a similar law
    but perhaps that can be changed).

> >happy, playful, healthy and will never get run over by a car!!!!
> >
> >Cats do not have to be outside to be happy.  
> 
> This started out to be a discussion about shooting cats around a 
> bird feeder.  So, let the cars kill off a few.

    Is that right.  Maybe you wouldn't sound so secure in your words
    if it was your cat that you found pizza-ed in the street.  Or maybe
    you'll hit someone elses cat and have a "great" evening afterwards?
    Or how about the "pets" that are roming the streets and run out
    in front of cars causing the drivers to swerve and hit trees
    possibly killing themselves or others?

> By nature, cats are outside animals.  Now if you want your's to act
> and live in an unnatural style, that's your choice.  Mine goes out.

    And hopefully it will get lost and adopted by someone who cares.

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