Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: phys-bb@garnet.berkeley.edu Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Jews - Our Christian Attitude - (was advice to David Buxton) Message-ID: Date: 3 Dec 89 17:45:35 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 20 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu [David Buxton asked how one can talk about Jesus' trial without making comments about "the Jews" that seem to condemn Jews of today. >Consider the crowds who loved Him and the few who did not. We can say >the 'leadership' did it - the 'establishment' did it. Is that a >decent answer? --clh] I think the best way to talk about Jesus and who it was that condemned him, and of the prophets and who it was who condemned them, etc., is to talk about the Religious Establishment. In Jesus's day and place the religious establishment was Judaism, but not today. In the Middle Ages the religious establishment in Western Europe was the Roman Catholic Church, but much much less so today. Today in the U.S. the establishment is harder to define, but it's still there. Any institution that claims to have its roots in "Thus says the word of the Lord" and yet has grown too big and has become rooted actually in the world rather than in God's word is a religious establishment gone haywire. phys-bb@garnet.berkeley.edu / ". . .into the narrow lanes, \ (John Warren) I can't stumble or stay put. . ." \ -- Dylan /