Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!daemon Date: Wed, 29 Nov 89 06:35:50 EST Sender: From: chi@vlsi.uwaterloo.ca (Bo Chi) Message-ID: <8911291635.AA13572@vlsi.waterloo.edu> Original-To: china-distribution@cs.toronto.edu Subject: Nov. 29 (I), News Digest Newsgroups: ut.chinese Distribution: ut Sender: list-admin@csri.toronto.edu Approved: nobody@csri.toronto.edu | +---------I __L__ ___/ \ -------I +----+----+ | ___\_\_ | \./ | | -----+- | | | | | __ \/ | --+-- |--- | |---| | I----+----I | I__J/\ | __|__ | | | |---| | | | _____ \ | /| \ | | | L__-| | I I---------J / J \/ | | V | J * C h i n a N e w s D i g e s t * (ND Canada Service) -- Nov. 29 (I), 1989 Table of Contents # of Lines Headline News ....... .......................................... 10 1) A Letter to ND Editors ........................................ 59 2) Organization Introduction - Preface ........................ 107 3) Organization Introduction - Soc.Culture.China ............... 86 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Headline News --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The University of Politics of Taiwan will sponsor a seminar about the future of democracy movement in China. FDC's secretary in general Wan Rin- nan, the author of 'River Elegy' Su Xiaokang, chairman of 'Chinese Democracy Allience' Hu Peng, and famous journalist Liu Binyan will attend the seminar with some other pro-democracy activists. The seminar will be held in late December. From: simone@nyspi.bitnet (J. Yang) Source: World Journal, 11/27/89 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. A Letter to ND Editors -- By X. Hua from minhua@nereid.sal.ists.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Editors, Concerning the report "China 'would support Brain Drain Plan'" in Nov. 28 News Digest, I would like to share my own experience with the readers who are interested in going to Hong Kong. It began about two years ago when I saw a notice in an academic journal put up by one of the HK universities/polytechnics inviting application for the teaching positions available there. I submitted my application and was interviewed later by the representatives of the school while they travelled in North America. At the interview, both sides had no idea whether it was possible for a Ph.D. from China to be employed by a HK institution because it was something that had never happened before. But we decided to go ahead anyway. A few months later, I was told by the people from the school that they had talked with the people of the HK Branch of the Xinhua News Agency and they were quite supportive of the idea. I was given the offer, and was told to apply an employment visa to HK from the local British consulate. The officer in the consulate told me that all the employment visa applications to HK was to be forwarded to HK Immigration Department. The decision would be made by the HK authority, not the consulate. Another two months passed before the consulate sent me a notice informing me the denial of my application by the HK Immigration Department. And this is the end of the story. Later, I made a direct inquiry about the reason to the HK Immigration Department and was told that, according to an agreement between HK and the Chinese government, all mainland Chinese who want to enter HK for whatever reasons must have the one-way or two-way travel document issued by the Chinese Public Security Department. The only exception is that if the mailander has the permanent residency of a third country. From my unfortunate experience, I got several impressions. 1) A citizen from any country of the world (perhaps including Taiwan) can apply an employment visa to HK as long as he has a valid passport and an employment contract with some HK institutions. The only exception is the citizen from the country -- (mailand of) China, who are governed by an agreement between HK and Chinese government, no matter he is a cross-border smuggler or a doctor of philosophy! 2) The Chinese authorities will be glad to see some Chinese students to work in HK for obvious reasons. But they probably will use Public Security Department's travel documents to control these people. This is especially so after June 4. 3) Once you get the permanent residency of a third country (no matter what), you are advanced by one big grade in the hierarchy of Chinese residence ('Hu4 Kou2') system. Even the HK government will no longer put you in the same catalogue as the refugee or smugglers. So try hard to get it! By your excellent performance in the university-entry exams, you probably had got rid of your countryside or small town 'Hu4 Kou2' and obtained a metropolitan 'Hu4 Kou2', like Bejing or Shanghai. Now is the struggle to get rid of your Chinese 'Hu4 Kou2'. 4) As far as Hong Kong 'Hu4 Kou2' is concerned, it used to be much higher than any Chinese one. But it is devaluating rapidly now. Don't you see the HK people are trying every method for the British 'Hu4 Kou2'? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Organization Introduction - Preface --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GXU@KENTVM.BITNET "Xu Gang" * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ORGANIZATION INTRODUCTIONS * * series Issue: 1 * * debut Nov. 16, 1989 * * * * --- /------ / | | |---------| | * * /|-----| /---/ | |----|----| | ---|--- | /\ * * \ | | | / / \ | | | | ___|___ | / \ * * -|--+--|- \ / |\ |----|----| | | \ | / \ * * / | | | / \ | | | ---|--- | / \ * * / |--|--| / | | |---------| / \__ * * * * * * China Net ---------- \/ --------- * * China News Digest ----- CCCS ----- * * China Study Forum --- /\ --- * * Social Culture China * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Preface Numerous organizations have been established by overseas Chinese since they came across the Pacific Ocean. Some of them are just discussion groups with a few sores of participants, others are big associations, claiming tens of thousands of members; some are political, others are professional. As a Chinese living overseas now, or for anyone who are interested in China and Chinese, it is quite natural to ask the following questions: 1). What are the motivations that make them associated? 2). How well are they organized? 3). What function are they playing in the overseas Chinese communities? 4). What are the influences of their activities on the situations in China? Trying to answer these questions, we initiated this program of Organization Introduction. We have sent letters to about 30 organizations listed in the Appendix to invite them to introduce themselves to our readers. Now we have received a number of Introductions and some others have promised to send their Introductions later. Here we express our sincere thanks to those who have made their contributions to make this program possible. Also we hope that more organizations will join this program. Now we start posting the Introductions we have got to our readers. we welcome comments and suggestion from our readers about this program. However, we encourage our readers who would like to know more about a specific organization to contact the organization of his interest directly. We would highly appreciate any help from our readers by providing more information about any overseas Chinese Organizations that are not listed in the Appendix. We would like to get as many organizations to participate as possible. Thank you for your interest and we hope that you will enjoy this program. Dong Ping Deng (Social Culture China) Weihe Guan (China-net) Hong Lin (China Study Forum) Gang Xu (China News Digest) Appendix: List of Organizations Invited Invitation letters have been sent to the following organizations: 1) The Chinese Association of Agricultural Students and Scholar (CAASS) 2) American Association of Chinese Comparative Literature (AACCL) 3) Chinese Business Association (CBA) 4) Chinese Young Economists Society (CYES) 5) The Chinese Historians in US (CH) 6) Association of Chinese Physicists and Astronomers in North America and Europe (OCPA) 7) The Chinese Political Scientists Association 8) Sino-eco (Chinese Ecologists Club) 9) China News Digest (ND) (e-mail group) 10) China Net (e-mail group) 11) China Study Forum (CSF) (e-mail group) 12) Social Culture China (SCC) (e-mail group) 13) AI HUA Society (Ai HUA SHE) 14) Visa-net (e-mail group) 15) The National Coordination Committee on Chinese Student Affairs (CCSA) 16) Alliance of Chinese Patriots 17) Chinese Alliance For Democracy (MIN LIAN) 18) Chinese Canadian National Council (CCNC) 19) Federation of Chinese Students and Scholars in Canada (FCSSC) 20) Independent Federation of Chinese Students and Scholars in US (IFCSS) 21) Silicon Valley for Democracy in China 22) The Front of Democracy in China (MIN ZHEN) 23) Human Rights in China (ZHONG GUO REN QUAN) 24) Press Freedom Herald (news paper) 25) The voice of June 4th (radio station) 26) The Chinese Intellectual (magazine) 27) The Outcry (magazine) 28) The Overseas Chinese Voice (magazine) PS. We would highly appreciate it if anyone would provide us with the mailing address or the phone number of the following organization so that we can send our invitation letter to it: 29) United Association of Students and Scholars of People's Republic of China (UASSPRC) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. Organization Introduction - Soc.Culture.China --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sun@YaleVMS "Sun,Kang" ====== A BRIEF INTRODUCTION TO SOC.CULTURE.CHINA NEWSGROUP ====== By Sun, Kang (Sun@YaleVMS) 1. What is S.C.C.? S.C.C. (stands for Soc.Culture.China) is a NEWSGROUP on the world-wide computer network USENET. It was created on November 17, 1987. Since the beginning, there have been many articles of different subjects, cute or not, poured into this newsgroup, which engender many debates as one can imagine. All kinds of discussions, debates, information exchange, news update happen on SCC. It reaches to countries like USA, Canada, England, Australia, West Germany, Japan, France, Norway, etc. Its readership accounts to about 9,000 worldwide, and its traffic is about 100 articles daily in average. 2. Brief history Early in 1987, a project under the the name "ChinaNet" was proposed by a research group at Texas A&M University to connect BITNet to China. This project immediately attracted many Chinese students and scholars. They tried their best to help with the project. Meanwhile, a mailing list, also called ChinaNet, was created to coordinate the efforts. As more and more people signed up to the list, ChinaNet's popularity increased daily. It played an important role in coordinating the 1987 Open Letter Campaign simply because it was then the most convenient way to reach large Chinese population. The mailing list soon became moderated because of too much irrelevant debate through it. It was clear then that a media dedicated to China and Chinese affair was in demand. Most of the ChinaNet readers voted "yes" to the motion of forming a newsgroup. So came S.C.C.. Although the ChinaNet project was aborted for ridiculous reasons, S.C.C. stands active. Note that the "ChinaNet" mailing list in this article has little to do with the "China-net", which is a relative young mailing list based on Stanford. 3. How a newsgroup differs from mailing list. Consider the two ways of getting information: post mail and bulletin board. If you happen to be on a mailing list, (junk mail) comes to your mailbox, which you either have to read or discard. If you don't do anything, your mail will soon pile up in your mailbox; while you go to read bulletin board as you wish. Basically, a newsgroup is a like a column on an electronic bulletin board. In particular, S.C.C. is a column dedicated to China and Chinese affair on the world-wide bulletin board named USENET. But you don't have to live in the same town or nearby to read the same bulletin board. Electronically, living in the same town means having access to or "residing on" the same network. Newsgroup articles are stored in a public area of a nearby computer shared by many computers and users. A program, usually under the name RNews, NetNews, News, etc, is designed to read and to post news articles. You can usually decide if you want to read or to skip articles of particular subjects or columns (newsgroups). 4. For Non-USENET residents For those non-USENet residents, a voluntary rebroadcasting service of S.C.C. has been established in the form of a mailing list. The service first started in Cornell University, then moved to Carnegie Mellon University and now is stationed in Yale University with automatic rebroadcasting mechanism. (The mailing list is still handled in CMU.) If you sign up to the service, you will get archived article packages daily in your E-mailbox. Make sure you don't have direct access to USENET before you sign up to our service, so to avoid unnecessary overflow in your mailbox. To subscribe to S.C.C rebroadcasting service, send E-mail to listserv@cmuccvma.bitnet with Subject line: Sub SCC-L full_name. And to cancel your subscription, send E-mail to the same address with Subject line : Signoff SCC-L. For readers from Canada, send your subscription and unsubscription request to LIST-REQUEST@EAN.UBC.CA. Happy networking :-)) _________________ Disclaimer: Part of this text is taken from an old and longer version of "Introduction to S.C.C.", which was written jointly by many people. This author likes to acknowledge their efforts. _________________ About the author: Mr. Sun, Kang, Vice President of the Association of Chinese Students and Scholars at Yale (ACSSY) for the 1989-90 term, is currently working for his Ph.D degree in Robotics. In his spare time, he enjoys hacking on computer networks and his Mac+. His well-regarded work on network includes the S.C.C. broadcasting service and a Survey on Chinese Word Processors. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Executive Editor: Yaxiong Lin E_mail: aoyxl@asuacvax.bitnet | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ============================================================================= News Transmission chi@vlsi.uwaterloo.ca (or) -------------------- --------------------- Local Editor: Bo Chi chi@vlsi.waterloo.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wed Nov 29 11:32:25 EST 1989 Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com