Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!anwst From: anwst@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Anders N. Weinstein) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: What is a Symbol System? Keywords: computation, symbol manipulation, syntax, formality Message-ID: <21032@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Date: 6 Dec 89 22:25:43 GMT References: <11640@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> <17189@netnews.upenn.edu> <1656@aipna.ed.ac.uk> <11711@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> Reply-To: anwst@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Anders N. Weinstein) Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh, Comp & Info Services Lines: 24 "Explicit representation of the rules" is a big red herring. At least two major articulations of the "symbolist" position are quite clear: nothing requires a symbol system to be "rule-explicit" (governed by representations of the rules) rather than merely "rule-implicit" (operating in accordance with the rules). This point is enunciated in Fodor's _Psychosemantics_ and also in Fodor + Pylyshyn's _Cognition_ critique of connectionism. It is also true according to Haugeland's characterization of "cognitivism" [Reprinted in his _Mind Design_] The important thing is simply that a symbol system operates by manipulating symbolic representations, as you've characterized them. Many people seem to get needlessly hung up on this issue. My own suggestion is that the distinction is of merely heuristic value anyway -- if you're clever enough, you can probably interpret any symbol system either way -- and that nothing of philosophical interest ought to hinge on it. I believe the philosopher Robert Cummins has also published arguments to this effect, but I don't have the citations handy. -- Anders Weinstein ARPA: anwst@unix.cis.pitt.edu U. Pitt. Philosophy UUCP: {cadre,psuvax1}!pitt!cisunx!anwst Pittsburgh, PA 15260 BITNET: anwst@pittvms