Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!pt.cs.cmu.edu!daisy.learning.cs.cmu.edu!mnr From: mnr@daisy.learning.cs.cmu.edu (Marc Ringuette) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Cog Sci Fi (was: STRONG AND WEAK AI) Message-ID: <7315@pt.cs.cmu.edu> Date: 12 Dec 89 20:04:24 GMT Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI Lines: 23 Stevan Harnad writes, > ... the symbol grounding problem for this enterprise is empirical and > methodological. It isn't and never has been philosophical. Let's look at the following statement from a methodological point of view. You wrote, > ... what goes on inside a simulation is just meaningless > symbol crunching. The only way to ground symbols is in the real world. What did you mean? If you're saying that an AI system running in a simulation is totally meaningless, then I'll argue that you're flat wrong. I get a feeling that you only meant 'meaningless' in the philosophical sense. In that case, my question stands: why make philosophical arguments if you really mean to discuss methodological issues? And would you re-state the methodological case you were trying to make? I couldn't hear it for the noise. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// /// Marc Ringuette /// Carnegie Mellon University, Comp. Sci. Dept. /// /// mnr@cs.cmu.edu /// Pittsburgh, PA 15213. Phone 412-268-3728(w) /// ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////