Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sunybcs!boulder!bill From: bill@boulder.Colorado.EDU Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets Subject: Re: Contrast sensitivity of spatiotemporal models models Keywords: spatiotemporal filtering, motion detection Message-ID: <14700@boulder.Colorado.EDU> Date: 8 Dec 89 16:20:22 GMT References: <8977@discus.technion.ac.il> Sender: news@boulder.Colorado.EDU Reply-To: bill@synapse.Colorado.EDU () Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Lines: 20 > Almost all suggested motion detectors based on spatiotemporal energy > measurements are sensitive to the contrast of the stimulus, so that > they do not encode velocity information *directly*. Assuming that > division is NOT a biological plausible operation, how can this problem > be solved by means of a simple, biological plausible, neural network? > Gradient methods suffer form the same problem in that division is needed > to get rid of contrast dependency... Thanks in advance for any help! > > Dario Ringach, Technion, Israel Institute of Technology, > Dept. of Electrical Engineering, Box 52, 32000 Haifa, Israel > But division IS a biologically plausible operation -- in fact it's actually more plausible than simple subtraction. The most common form of inhibition in the brain (GABA acting to open chloride channels) performs an operation more like a division than a subtraction (though it's really a sort of combination of the two). Neurophysiologists often refer to this as "shunting inhibition". Bill Skaggs