Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!philmtl!atha!aunro!myrias!cmt From: cmt@myrias.com (Chris Thomson) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: In computing, late-bloomers are usually never-bloomers Message-ID: <629274691.11005@myrias.com> Date: 10 Dec 89 06:31:29 GMT References: <24317@cup.portal.com> <480@dmk3b1.UUCP> <1989Nov28.104128.8045@hellgate.utah.edu> <1Tcfjq#9jMTbv=eric@snark.uu.net> <3511@convex.UUCP> <1933@eric.mpr.ca> <1TfOZ0#142gXX=eric@snark.uu.net> Organization: Myrias Research Corporation Lines: 22 In article <1TfOZ0#142gXX=eric@snark.uu.net> eric@snark.uu.net (Eric S. Raymond) writes: >In this industry, technologies with such a profile are usually losers based >on a fundamental misreading either of engineering possibility or economics. >Niche markets and the enthusiasm of a few can keep them breathing stertorously >but they tend to end up having zero impact on the development of computing as >a whole. > >Lisp machines. Forth machines. `Hybrid computing'. Thin-film memory. In >software, APL...PL/1...Algol 68. Computing history is littered with the >corpses of these perpetually promising youngsters. Today, we have ADA and OS/2. >And tomorrow, I am nearly sure `commodity GaAs' will join this dismal list. APL, PL/I and Algol68 had considerably more than zero impact. The impact of Algol68 in particular has been far reaching, even though the language itself is not used much anymore. Algol-W, Pascal, Modula and Ada all owe their heritage directly to Algol68. C was influenced heavily by Algol68. PL/I (may it fade away quietly) also contributed valuable lessons in language design. APL features keep popping up, for instance as vector-valued subscripts in F8X. -- Chris Thomson, Myrias Research Corporation uunet!myrias!cmt or cmt@myrias.com 900 10611 98 Ave, Edmonton Alberta, Canada Tel 403-428-1616 Fax 403-421-8979