Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!mailrus!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: nvuxr!deej@bellcore.bellcore.com (David Lewis) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Speech on Telephone Privacy Message-ID: <1853@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 5 Dec 89 16:13:45 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ Lines: 44 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 9, Issue 554, message 3 of 11 All in all a very interesting article, and I add my thanks to David Gast for submitting it to the Digest. Although I tend to disagree with some of the content... and while I was trying to figure out why, I realized that the central theme of Mr. Rotenberg's comments is. "(Calling Number Delivery) compels the disclosure of personal information, without the consent of the caller. This is at the heart of information privacy and the reason that so many civil libertarians and consumer advocates are concerned about the service." Given that, the rest of the arguments tend to flow. There is a basic assumption here that Mr. Rotenburg doesn't address, though: Is a telephone number "personal information"? Or is it corporate information belonging to the telephone company? I don't have an answer, of course (but I smell a Ph.D. thesis...) I will offer some possibilities for discussion, though. What exactly is "personal information"? Name? Blood type? Is there some common thread that distinguishes "personal information" from other types of information? If the telephone company wanted to change your phone number, would you be able to get a restraining order preventing them from doing so? The telephone companies, after all, have changed people's telephone numbers in the past and will continue to do so -- ask anyone whose number used to be 312-NXX-XXXX and is now 708-NXX-XXXX. If a second party can change information, is that information "personal"? I do agree very strongly with Mr. Rotenberg's second recommendation -- involving privacy advocates, public advocates, and so on in the process of defining new services. (And, presumably, getting 'em to sign non-disclosure agreements wouldn't be a problem... :-)) David G Lewis ...!bellcore!nvuxr!deej (@ Bellcore Navesink Research & Engineering Center) "If this is paradise, I wish I had a lawnmower."