Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: John Higdon Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Phone Solicitations (Ag Message-ID: <2004@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 10 Dec 89 02:16:55 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Reply-To: John Higdon Organization: Green Hills and Cows Lines: 29 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 9, Issue 564, message 8 of 8 In article <1902@accuvax.nwu.edu> 10e@hpcvia.cv.hp.com (Steven_Tenney) writes: >X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 9, Issue 557, message 5 of 11 >Oregon is soon to pass a law where a subscriber can have a symbol >placed by their name in phone books indicating that they do not want >any telemarketers/solicitors calling. If telemarketers do call the >particular residence anyway (whether it's a mistake or not) the could >be fined heavily (up to $25,000). Needless to say this will kill the >computerized random calling technique in Oregon. Oh, dream on! Do you think for one microsecond that ALL or even most telemarketing directed at Oregonians originates inside Oregon? No offense, but I seriously doubt that major telemarketers set up boiler rooms in Oregon itself. And how will the phone police *prove* (remember proof? it's required in court) that any particular calls originated within the state boundaries of Oregon? In California, junk callers are required to get the victim's permission before sicking a machine on them. When I tried to turn one in that didn't, they said, "Oh, we make all of our telemarketing calls from Wisconsin." I knew they were lying, but it was EOD (end of discussion). I predict the new law will have negligible effect on the computerized random calling technique in Oregon. John Higdon | P. O. Box 7648 | +1 408 723 1395 john@zygot.ati.com | San Jose, CA 95150 | M o o !