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From: sullivan@aqdata.uucp (Michael T. Sullivan)
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Subject: Re: Re^2: CS education
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Date: 8 Dec 89 16:24:11 GMT
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From article <474a6994.20b6d@apollo.HP.COM>, by betsyp@apollo.HP.COM (Betsy Perry):
> 
> Let me be the 97,000th to point out that, with the possible exception of musicians
> and teachers, the professions you list above get their professional education 
> in graduate school.   (And musicans and teachers are both expected to 
> continue their professional education throughout their lives).

So universities _can_ give a professional education, it's just that some
have to wait for graduate school?  There are others (teachers (in some cases),
musicians, business majors) that don't have to wait.  I just would like to
see more cases where a professional education can be had at the undergraduate
level.

> There isn't enough time in a 4-year program
> to cover law *and* everything else an educated adult needs to know in order to
> practice law.  (Fess up;  I'll bet your wife's degree in Library Science
> was a Master's, right?)

Yes, she does have an MLS but I should think a four year CS program could
be more suited to the real world.  How often have you come up against
mu recursive functions?  I haven't yet.

> You can't produce an intelligent, educated graduate unless the graduate *wants*
> to become an intelligent, educated person.  As you point out, most students
> *want* pieces of paper which enable them to get jobs.  It's hard to educate
> somebody who is in college only to get the diploma.

As I mentioned in another posting, today it is hard if not impossible to
get certain jobs without that diploma/college experience.  Do not blame
someone if their priority is job first, education second.
-- 
Michael Sullivan          uunet!jarthur.uucp!aqdata!sullivan
aQdata, Inc.
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