Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!lakesys!mikes From: mikes@lakesys.lakesys.com (Mike Shawaluk) Newsgroups: comp.music Subject: Re: piano vibrato Message-ID: <1398@lakesys.lakesys.com> Date: 8 Dec 89 14:35:22 GMT References: <1432@skye.ed.ac.uk> <6912@merlin.usc.edu> Reply-To: mikes@lakesys.UUCP (Mike Shawaluk) Organization: Lake Systems - Milwaukee, Wisconsin Lines: 45 In article <6912@merlin.usc.edu> alves@aludra.usc.edu (Bill Alves) writes: >In article <1432@skye.ed.ac.uk> ken@aiai.UUCP (Ken Johnson) writes: >>Best Ways to get a Vibrato Effect on a Piano >> >>1. Get a friend to open and shut the lid. >>2. Stand audience outside house. Open annd shut doors and windows. >>3. Mount piano on giant vibrator. >> >I'm afraid these methods will result only in TREMOLO, not vibrato. That is, >you are modulating the loudness, not the pitch. My suggestion is to vibrate >the piano alternating toward and away from the audience. If done fast enough >over enough of a distance, the doppler effect will give you vibrato. 8-) Okay, I see we're all having great fun with the original poster's question. However, since I recently attended a clavicord recital, I found this concept at least interesting, since one of the things that one of the performers at that event said in his introduction was that the clavichord was capable of vibrato. And, in fact, several of the selections that were played that evening featured this effect. This effect is relatively easy to accomplish on a clavichord, since the keys are directly connected to the hammers, with no escapement, so that holding a key down will keep it pressed against its strings. Thus, changing the pressure on a key while it is held down will produce a small amount of vibrato, although the note will be at a subdued volume, because the contact with the hammer will tend to dampen it a bit. Since a piano has these annoying escapements (is that what they are called?), it's not possible to get vibrato the way a clavicord does it, but surely there is some (hopefully serious) way to do this. Does reaching inside and pressing/wiggling the strings while one is playing count? (assuming, of course, that the type of piano being played will allow this type of manipulation). Actually, I'm able to easily get vibrato when I play one of my "piano"s, which is an Ensoniq Mirage with the appropriate sample diskette. All I have to do is turn the mod wheel. :-) :-) :-) (please, this is *not* an attempt to start another flame war on the validity [or lack thereof] of sampled vs. "real" instruments, etc.) - Mike -- - Mike Shawaluk "Rarely have we seen a mailer -> DOMAIN: mikes@lakesys.lakesys.com fail which has thoroughly -> UUCP: ...!uunet!marque!lakesys!mikes followed these paths." -> BITNET: 7117SHAWALUK@MUCSD