Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uunet!cme!libes From: libes@cme.nbs.gov (Don Libes) Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix Subject: Registering for the USENIX/Uniforum conferences Keywords: Marrakesh, 617 NY Av, NW Message-ID: <2249@muffin.cme.nbs.gov> Date: 11 Dec 89 20:55:24 GMT Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology Lines: 59 The following thoughts are given with the presumption that I'm paying for registration at USENIX but want to at least see the vendor exhibits at UniForum if not something else there if it sounds good. What do I have to pay/fill out? How to register for both conferences is unclear. The UniForum brochure doesn't say anything about the USENIX conference while the USENIX brouchure has one line (page 3) that says "attendees will receive complimentary (see 3 below) registration to UniForum's Trade Show" which I find very vague. I called the registration number to get the answers to several questions, and thought others might be interested. 0) There is no discount for joint registration. 1) If you register for USENIX, you automatically get to see the UniForum exhibits. (The folks at UniForum were a little confused. One (KB) said that our USENIX badges would allow us admission. Another (GHW) said that we had to take our badges over to the conference desk, and that we could register for a free exhibit badge. Evidently the exhibits are free, but perhaps it will save aggravation if you fill out the "free" part of the UniForum form. (Yeah, ANYONE can register for the exhibits FREE as long as you do it in advance.) 2) The UniForum workshops are free to USENIX attendees. (I assume the UniForum BoFs are as well, but they couldn't tell me for sure.) 3) The "complimentary" UniForum conference proceedings are not complimentary unless you actually PAY for your UniForum registration. 4) No one knows what the UniForum keynote speakers are speaking about. Unlike the USENIX brochure which clearly identifies what the keynote speaker will discuss, the Uniforum brochure does not (for any of the three speakers). No offense, guys, but I'm not going to go on the strength of your bios alone. In all, I found four talks at UniForum that I'd like to hear, but two of them overlap with USENIX talks. Sigh. Maybe I'll just pay the $50 for the "complimentary" proceedings instead of the $220 registration and read them later. Of course, there is no guarantee that any particular talks will be included since it says "This valuable reference volume includes ... most technical papers presented ..." ("most" means "more than half", right?) Ok, here's my $220. By the way the tag line of UniForum is "The Biggest UNIX System Event of the Year" (obviously they weren't around when my last program dumped core) while the one for USENIX is "The Workshops & Technical Program may be cancelled in the event of snow, but we'll see you at the Party [the real reason we're all here] no matter what." Don Libes libes@cme.nist.gov ...!uunet!cme-durer!libes By the way, my favorite DC restaurant is Marrakesh - good for parties of 2 to 10. It is Moroccan but that hardly explains what a treat it is. I won't explain it here, since it is more fun to go not knowing what to expect. Call two weeks or more in advance, (202) 393-9393.