Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!srcsip!mingus!jkimball From: jkimball@SRC.Honeywell.COM (John Kimball) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: subnetting on non-byte boundaries Message-ID: <50277@srcsip.UUCP> Date: 12 Dec 89 22:19:36 GMT Sender: news@src.honeywell.COM Reply-To: jkimball@src.honeywell.com () Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center Lines: 53 Time to call on the Wisdom of the Net . . . We have a Class B network. We've been following the strategy which all the examples in the manuals depict: subnetting at the byte boundary, using the third octet for our (internal) network ids and the fourth octet for the host id. We've also been keeping our backbone as one logical network (actually three ethernet segments joined by learning bridges). On that backbone network, we are approaching 250 hosts. And we expect to need another 75 or so additional IP addresses within a few months. Ooops. Looks like our options are: Option 1: Modify our subnetting scheme. Use 6 bits for internal network id, and use 10 bits for host id. We've kept our network id's in the high bits of the third octet, so the low bits are free and can be reassigned to the 'host part'. Worry 1.1: The only examples in the manuals show subnetting on byte boundaries. Will a 6/10 (vs 8/8) bit-split really work? (Context: lots of Suns running 4.0.3; VMS VAXen running CMU-TEK 6.4; some random Apollos and HPs that we don't care about, much.) Worry 1.2: Can we really expect to keep increasing the number of hosts on our backbone network at this rate? When will performance problems set in? Option 2: Play games with routing. Put two networks on the same backbone, both with metric 0. Worry 2.1: Is this some sort of unsupported kludge -- will it work, for our mix of hosts? Worry 2.2: If we should in the future attach some gateways to that backbone cable, would they die of terminal confusion? Option 3: Bite the bullet and buy some hardware. Replace the learning bridges with true gateways, making the three segments be three networks. Has anyone done Option 1 or Option 2? What would you recommend? As always, reply via mail and I'll summarize if indicated. Thanks! John Kimball Domain: jkimball@src.honeywell.com Honeywell Systems and Research Center postmaster@src.honeywell.com Computer Sciences/Software Technology uucp: !srcsip!jkimball 3660 Technology Drive, MN65-2100 voice: 612/782-7343 fax: 612/782-7438 Minneapolis, MN 55418-1006