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From: easu021@orion.oac.uci.edu (Daren Wolf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: Upgrading Aztec C
Message-ID: <3771@orion.cf.uci.edu>
Date: 7 Dec 89 01:20:38 GMT
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Reply-To: easu021@orion.oac.uci.edu (Jason Goldberg)
Organization: University of California, Irvine
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>I'm not saying that the system of "original disks as proof of ownership" is
>unfair except insomuch as originals may disappear due to loss or theft.

If Manx was using the origonal disks as proff of ownership then I might not be
as opposed to their policy as I am.  The fact is that Manx is trying to 
recover the cost of the disks!  They tell you that if you can't mail the
origonals then just send 4 blank disks.

>But we need to know definitely in the case of the hypothetical Manx upgrade
>whether they want the disks mailed back.  Is this true?

It is definately true that Manx wants you to send in 4 disks each time you
upgrade.  They don't have to be the Manx origonal disks however.  I have
never done this, and I have never been notified of an upgrade.  Since 
people on the net who have sent in their disks have been notified I am 
assuming that my refusal to send them disks keeps me off their mailing 
list.  I contend that since I payed $500 for the commercial version of
their product complete with 1 year free upgrades I shouldn't have to return 
the disks!
 
I did call Manx today and got the following about their upgrade:

Manx 5.0
Main new features include:
	1.  Full Ansi compatability
	2.  Built in optimizations
this is a $75 upgrade.  They are taking orders now. 1-800-221-0440
						NJ  1-201-542-2121
and will be shipping sometime this month.

As for me, since all my code is machine specific anyway, I don't really
need ANSI.  I will have to see how good the optimizer is and decide weither
to go to Manx 5.0 or Lattice 5.04.  I would prefere to stay with Manx since
I have so many great AREXX utilities for CygnusEd / Manx and since I have
just sent in my upgrade request for CygnusEd (they did mail me a notice
saying $25 + origonal disk for new manual, vastly improved AREXX, ect...)

-Jason-