Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!zephyr.ens.tek.com!uw-beaver!ubc-cs!cheddar.cc.ubc.ca!panon From: panon@cheddar.cc.ubc.ca (Paul-Andre Panon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Non-Zorro slots in the Amiga 3000 Keywords: 3000 slots Message-ID: <5951@ubc-cs.UUCP> Date: 12 Dec 89 04:45:39 GMT References: <5906@ubc-cs.UUCP> <3751@convex.UUCP> <5936@ubc-cs.UUCP> <3854@convex.UUCP> Sender: news@cs.ubc.ca Reply-To: panon@cheddar.cc.ubc.ca (Paul-Andre Panon) Distribution: na Organization: UBC Computing Centre, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 38 In article <3854@convex.UUCP> swarren@convex.COM (Steve Warren) writes: >In article <5936@ubc-cs.UUCP> panon@cheddar.cc.ubc.ca (Paul-Andre Panon) writes: >>In article <3751@convex.UUCP& swarren@convex.COM (Steve Warren) writes: > > [discussion of how to get 32-bit connections while allowing zorro II > boards to plug into the same slots] > >>%This technique is already being used in "blue" land. Yes, they do >>%manage to do some things right out there, and I think this is a >>%good example. > >>I guess you mean the EISA kludge. Sorry, I don't consider it "doing it right". > >Depends on what you mean by "it". > >--Steve Sorry (again :-). You effectively said that you thought the two level connection EISA uses is one of the things "they" managed to do correctly in Blue land. Most of the reviews I'd heard about EISA weren't exactly-shall I say-raving. I can't remember the exact points. One that occurs to me is that you would need extra circuitry so that-should somebody not push in a card far enough so that, if the lower level fingers are in contact with the higher level contacts, the board and machine don't get fried from juice going the wrong way. If something can go wrong, it will. I find the AT or MCA type extension more esthetic and less mechanically error-prone, and the mechanics of the extension is, after all, what's involved isn't it? You might have greater crosstalk at high frequencies with the EISA design too, no? I seem to remember that was part of the reason why so many of the lines in MCA are have to be ground. Hopefully I haven't put my foot too far in my mouth and won't wind up saying sorry in this thread again. -- Paul-Andre_Panon@cheddar.cc.ubc.ca or USERPAP1@UBCMTSG or Paul-Andre_Panon@undergrad.cs.ubc.ca or USERPAP1@mtsg.ubc.ca "What should the role of the University be? It should be to enlighten Society." -Luis Sobrino