Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!mailrus!ncar!unmvax!bbx!stsabq!jellson From: jellson@stsusa.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.tech Subject: Re: window/event/conman questions Message-ID: <6447@stsusa.com> Date: 8 Dec 89 14:54:36 GMT References: <29800002@inmet> <4688@sugar.hackercorp.com> <6377@stsusa.com> <4699@sugar.hackercorp.com> Organization: Siemens Transmission Systems, Albuquerque, NM Lines: 42 In article <4699@sugar.hackercorp.com>, peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes: > In article <6377@stsusa.com> jellson@stsusa.com writes: >> Ok, so don't depend on ConMan, but if it is there please support it. I really >> miss ConMans line editing and history functions in the XLISP environment. > > I thought ConMan was a straight drop in for CON:, just like NEWCON: is. If > that's the case, why wouldn't you have access to it from Xlisp? > -- > Peter "Have you hugged your wolf today" da Silva > `-_-' > 'U` "Really, a video game is nothing more than a Skinner box." > -- Peter Merel -- Peter, You clearly know much more than I do about this topic so forgive me if I am all screwed up here. I messed around with XLISP (can't remember version number) for some time trying unsuccessfully to get CONMAN to work with it and I thought the reason it didn't work was because it used the RAW: device for console I/O. Since I posted the last comment somebody sent me a replacement source fragment for XLISP that uses NEWCON: instead so possibly there are versions of XLISP out there that do support ConMan. The purpose of my posting though wasn't really to discuss XLISP, it was more a plea to build on the capabilities of ConMan rather to replace it. IMHO ConMan provides the most useful and flexible command line environment that I have ever used - which includes Unix, VMS, and VM/CMS, but not I must admit, Smalltalk. You seemed to suggest in your later posting that Smalltalk would be built on a full-screen editing user interface. If that's so then I can see how some features of ConMan would get in the way, the arrow keys for instance. ----- John Ellson ellson@ontap.stsusa.com 602-395-5281 Siemens Transmission Systems, 8620 N 22nd Ave, Phoenix AZ 85021 /// "Are you insinuating that my brain consists /// If my employers had my of, at bottom, just a bunch of ants running \\\/// opinions then they wouldn't around?" Douglas R. Hofstadter. \XX/ need me, would they?