Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!UMIX.CC.UMICH.EDU!krowitz%richter From: krowitz%richter@UMIX.CC.UMICH.EDU (David Krowitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo Subject: Re: review of _Digital_Review_ review of DN2500 Message-ID: <8912131603.AA17968@richter.mit.edu> Date: 13 Dec 89 16:03:40 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 33 No flames whatsoever. The diskless DN2500's we have are 80% the speed of our DN3500's. The price (for a university) was $2500 for the 15" screen and $3400 for the 19" screen. Memory can be bought from Apollo for about $500/MB (same as Sun charges for Sparcstation 1 memory) or from any IBM-PC clone memory manufacturer for about $100/MB (we paid $115/MB for 1MBx9, 80ns memories from Allegence Group, Inc). It's well known that the cost of disk drives is now equal to or greater than the cost of the CPU, memory, and monitor in a system, so seeing that the fully loaded system is 4X the base model is not at all surprising. As for the fact that they're not as fast as a high-end workstation ... what do you expect for a list price of $3990? Well, what I got was a machine which is twice as fast as my DN330's, DN560's, and DSP90's; three times faster than my DN460's and DN660's; has higher resolution screens; holds more RAM (16Mb with 1Mb SIMMS, 64Mb with 4Mb SIMMS) that can be bought for 1/10th of what I had to pay for DN3000 memory; and that can be bought for a price ($2500) equal to what I would pay for a 1Mb Mac SE/20 (MIT discount price for a 1Mb machine with 68000 chip, no floating point, no ethernet, low resolution screen, no virtual memory, 1 floppy and 1 20Mb disk). At this price I can finally afford to unplug the DN3xx/DN4xx/DN5xx/DN6xx machines and replace them. -- David Krowitz krowitz@richter.mit.edu (18.83.0.109) krowitz%richter.mit.edu@eddie.mit.edu krowitz%richter.mit.edu@mitvma.bitnet (in order of decreasing preference)