Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!mcsun!sunic!draken!ianf From: ianf@nada.kth.se (Ian Feldman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: 1/2 system disappeared Summary: Rodime HD early ROM version a likely suspect Message-ID: <2511@draken.nada.kth.se> Date: 10 Dec 89 13:44:50 GMT References: <4ZUV61S00WBLI26mkL@andrew.cmu.edu> Reply-To: ianf@nada.kth.se (Ian Feldman) Organization: Royal Institute Of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden Lines: 74 Cc:ianf@draken In article <4ZUV61S00WBLI26mkL@andrew.cmu.edu> Brad Hathaway writes: > >Yesterday, a friend of mine tried to print a pagemaker >file from my mac II to a DeskWriter. There was a >system crash, and the next time that I booted up, >roughly half of my system folder was gone. Just gone. > >Weird. Alphabetically, everything after PMUSUSER.TXT, >which (coincidentally or not) is a PageMaker document, >is missing. The system folder is actually called >"Server Folder" 'cause I have the server software >installed. > >The very weirdest thing about this is that the system >still boots from my hard disk, and recognizes that the >server folder is the current system folder . . . even >though there is no file named "system" in the folder! > >I took a look at the files in the system using MacTools, >to see if they had somehow become invisible, but to no >avai. [ list of suspected INITs deleted -- they're not responsible anyway ] Is your hard drive, by any chance, a Rodime RX4500 (45 Plus) (internally called R3000S), formated using Rodime Driver Utility 2.04 or later? I am asking because that's the usual behavior of my drive after having been "updated" from 2:1 to 1:1 interleave using Utility 2.10 - losing most of the stuff in the system file and yet being able to boot from it. Doubtless, there is money to be made on this perfectly security-minded "Never-Seen"[tm] System "feature" ;-) The drive used to behave perfectly in its previous incarnation of interleave 2:1/ driver v. 2.03, which it shortly is going back to.... While I cannot really know if that's the real reason for your & mine troubles I know that the SCSI Manager recognizes the totally invisible System/ Finder and boots up, passing control to the System that _also_ recognizes the invisible INITs but denies them the right to be loaded on account of their being invisible (= a virus-like behavior in Apples parlance). That last "feature" seems to have been added from System 6.0.2 onwards. Incidentially, my troubles started after simply copying several files to a newly created System folder on the external and then making several of the documents - not INITs though - invisible with the help of the DiskTop (I do like my System folder uncluttered and there are absolutely no reasons to have all the myriads of strange Preference- and System-folder-resident datafiles visible, taking up screen real estate and prolonging the time it takes to display its contents). I guess the problem has to depend on same strange incompatibilities between the three "actors": the Rodime controller ROM, its Driver Utility version and some Macintosh programs' behavior. Thus far I have not been able to find out which ones are to be recognized for their more-than-usual sense of duty. I happen to have 2 Rodimes R3000S, however, one of them internal, the other external. The only difference between them, as far as I can see, is that the external one (the one with interleave 1:1 and _repeatedly_ invisible stuff on it) has ROM version 2.14 while the internal's one is 2.21. The internal has never given me any trouble and yet it is formatted with 1:1 interleave, using the same Driver as the external unit. Apple, Rodime, do call me for the license to the "Never-Seen" name of your coming trusted-system-software feature ;-) --Ian Feldman / ianf@nada.kth.se || uunet!nada.kth.se!ianf / "How can men & women ever come to an understanding? They're not even of the same sex."