Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!aplcen!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!apple!fox!portal!cup.portal.com!Armadillo From: Armadillo@cup.portal.com (Russ Armadillo Coffman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: America Online Message-ID: <24941@cup.portal.com> Date: 12 Dec 89 22:04:57 GMT References: <1989Dec9.170635.22759@cs.rochester.edu> <24891@cup.portal.com> <1989Dec11.165834.7605@cs.rochester.edu> Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 38 Mark Fulk: Sorry I misunderstood your terminology re "cached," which you define as "stored on disk." I always thought that term meant a temporary storage area, as in disk and RAM caches. :) "So what solution suggests itself? Storing the menus on the user's Mac is clearly needed." Unfortunately, this would do away with one of AO's main features: the ability to dynamically change the way screens look. AO can even change the name, number, and locations of buttons in dialogs. New ones appear all the time, almost daily, as improvements are made and new services are added. Eenter keyword "time," ferinstance. And they recently added a "Help" button in the keyword dialog. There are other features, like business association members, that only members see. But since you were at a disadvantage in not knowing this, your criticisms were understandable. :) Check out all the "My Navigator won't update" messages on CI$ for lots of good reasons to use dynamic features. The split seconds it takes to send new features pay off in ease and speed of use, not to mention confusion and error. I certainly see why some would like "cached" (stored on disk) menus, window definitions, and controls. But then some would complain about having to DL the changes to existing windows and new features, especially if they used AO from different Macs (at home and work, ferinstance). Some people complain about MacNet's "receiving new picture," ferinstance. The whole world's a trade-off, eh? :) "I am also sick of being told that my problem is that I am not just like you, and if I would just see the light and start behaving like you want me to, everything would be just hunky-dory." Exactly why I took the time to emphasize that there are, "as in any good Mac application, several ways of doing things" in AO. You have choices - don't "jump in the lake," use them! I'm not in customer service or sales, just a user like you for most of the board except for the small area I maintain. Customer service could stand improvement, that I will acknowledge (that's true of just about everyone these days, though). Enjoy, -Russ