Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!rice!sun-spots-request From: gnu@toad.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun Subject: Security of Secure NFS Keywords: Miscellaneous Message-ID: <3589@brazos.Rice.edu> Date: 4 Dec 89 07:28:21 GMT Sender: root@rice.edu Organization: Sun-Spots Lines: 19 Approved: Sun-Spots@rice.edu X-Refs: Original: v8n129 X-Sun-Spots-Digest: Volume 8, Issue 214, message 5 of 11 Preston Mullen asked back in Sept. whether Secure NFS's security was "illusion or reality". The short answer is it's illusion. One of the ten-minute talks at Crypto '89 in August was on "Cryptanalysis of Secure NFS" by Andrew Odlyzko (research!amo) and Brian LaMacchie. They found that Sun had made errors in the implementation that resulted in the system being relatively insecure as cryptographic systems go. Also, finding discrete logarithms doesn't appear to be as hard as Sun expected it to be, so the numbers Sun is using aren't big enough to avoid people simply burning some CPU time to break the system. Andrew says he "gave the job of breaking it to a bright summer student" (LaMacchie). You should contact them for the full details. There are also major holes in the way the system starts up; the password for "root" is stored in a file in the file system, so the system can boot up without having someone type a password. John Gilmore {sun,pacbell,uunet,pyramid}!hoptoad!gnu gnu@toad.com Just say *yes* to drugs. Use your *no*s for government bullshit.