Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uunet!lll-winken!decwrl!orc!mipos3!omepd!merlyn From: merlyn@iwarp.intel.com (Randal Schwartz) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: What should the password/security/userinfo/login system include? Message-ID: <5340@omepd.UUCP> Date: 12 Dec 89 18:02:43 GMT References: <4180@sbcs.sunysb.edu> <1989Dec7.172233.10130@chinet.chi.il.us> Sender: news@omepd.UUCP Reply-To: merlyn@iwarp.intel.com (Randal Schwartz) Distribution: usa Organization: Stonehenge; netaccess via Intel, Hillsboro, Oregon, USA Lines: 20 In-reply-to: les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell) In article <1989Dec7.172233.10130@chinet.chi.il.us>, les@chinet (Leslie Mikesell) writes: | I want logging of *all* keystrokes during a failing attempt at logging | in (more to allow me to help with the problem, but it would also | help detect intruders). This means (a) getty has to run in raw mode | (I want to see NULLs/XOFFs/backspaces/#'/@'s, et.al.), and (b) getty | and login have to be a single program, since getty collects the first | keystokes and doesn't know if the login is going to fail. No, no, no! A log of failed logins and/or passwords and/or keystrokes is a BIG security hole. Send me mail if you weren't in on this discussion last time, and don't see why it is a BIG security hole, and want to know why. Just another legendary-wizard's-namesake, -- /== Randal L. Schwartz, Stonehenge Consulting Services (503)777-0095 ====\ | on contract to Intel's iWarp project, Hillsboro, Oregon, USA, Sol III | | merlyn@iwarp.intel.com ...!uunet!iwarp.intel.com!merlyn | \== Cute Quote: "Welcome to Oregon... Home of the California Raisins!" ==/