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From: jordan@morgan.COM (Jordan Hayes)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: XView and MOTIF info
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Date: 13 Dec 89 19:33:28 GMT
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David E. Smyth <david@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV> writes:

	Maybe someday they (Sun) will offer a good, pure X server and
	Motif, but only if we all make alot of noise.

Well, their X server is pretty good (blows away Quest or Torch), but
who needs them to get Motif?  There's plenty of people around who can
give it to you.  Try OSF for one, since you can get the latest sources
(the other vendors are usually 6 months behind the current sources, for
good reason) and it's trivial to make it used shared libraries.

	Torch Technology Ltd makes a Motif with shared libs, and a darn
	good MIT derived-but-optimized X11R3 server.

I think you should qualify the "darn good" there.  I found it to be
only slightly faster at scrolling text, and not faster at all for doing
filled polygons.  xnews, the OpenWindows server, performs just fine for
me (okay, so it's not what the PMAX looks like, but it doesn't run
Uglix either ;-).

If you want to bang on Sun, bang on them for not supporting the Xt
Intrinsics which, despite their name, are not supported in
OpenWindows.  They aren't even available from Sun.

So much for Open-ness.

/jordan