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From: meo@stiatl.UUCP (Miles O'Neal)
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Subject: Re: let's quit propagating talk.bizarre
Keywords: [alleged] cross-posting wars
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Date: 7 Dec 89 01:58:13 GMT
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In article <122@rayssd.ray.com>, well-known net-gimp and alt-hater
	gmp@rayssd.ray.com (Gregory M. Paris) writes:

| Some of you may be aware that a few easily amused people think it's funny to
| start up cross-posting wars between talk.bizarre and other groups.  A typical

First of all, you are misdiagnosing the problem. A few, easily amused
people (FEAP) do like to start such wars, yes. But another FEAP do it for
some other reason, whether because they enjoy baiting new netters, or just
because they are easily amused. Malicious intent and silliness are different
things.

| beginning of these wars is that somebody posts an outrageous article to
| talk.bizarre and cross-posts it to the victim group.  Naive readers of the
| victim group follow up to the article and the war begins.

And it DOES take two to tango, according to the local dance studio.

| Two such articles have recently arrived here, showing up in rec.arts.startrek.
|One was posted by Richard Sexton, the other was posted by E.E. Carasso.  Sexton

Ah, so you are a victim, as well. There IS no E.E. Carasso, you see.

| has tried this same trick several times in the past and a few times he's been
| successful in starting a protracted war between the groups.
| 
| Personally, I'd have no problem with the existence of talk.bizarre if it
| wasn't for this type of blatantly offensive behavior on the part of some
                                                                      ^^^^
Be careful, this makes you sound like some sort of fascist-like twit,
wanting to nuke a froup because of the deportment of the vast minority of
said froup.

| talk.bizarre posters.  If they'd just keep to themselves, everybody would
| be happy.  Unfortunately, this is not the case.

And the same might be said of you. So what?

And guess who *propagates* these wars? Often, the "victims" keep them going on
far after the "war-mongering talk.bizarreite" have shut up. For that matter,
I have seen at least two of these *started* by someone who is a regular in
r.a.s, but not in t.b; perhaps we should nuke *both* froups, sir?

In fact, such things occur in other groups with absolutely NO t.b
involvement, as well. Not as often, or with such volume, but they
do occur. Shall we nuke them, while we are at it?

| intact, but don't forward it to your neighbors.  This action can be thought
| of as a penalty for poor net-citizenship.  If you think that the actions of
| talk.bizarre posters are out of line, please quit propagating the group.

Oh, my. And if we think that YOU are out of line, perhaps we should
have a filter quit propagating your posts? This action can be thought of
as "evolution in action". If you have a problem with particular net.persons,
you need to address that directly. Be creative. Flood their mailbox. Write
their sysadmin (heh). Email them a brick, postage due.

-Miles O'Neal
{yr fave backbone here}!emory!stiatl!meo

BTW, you will make a fine addition to my collection of George A. Basars...