Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcsun!sunic!liuida!isy!sssab!matoh From: matoh@sssab.se (Mats Ohrman) Newsgroups: news.groups Subject: Re: FSFnet, Otherrealms, and other electronic magazines... Message-ID: <1989Dec8.104420.20981@sssab.se> Date: 8 Dec 89 10:44:20 GMT References: <1989Dec6.100342.5982@sssab.se> <37044@apple.Apple.COM> <1234@umigw.MIAMI.EDU> Organization: Scandinavian System Support AB (3S AB) Lines: 74 *** WARNING, WARNING: some scattered showers of heavy irony predicted **** aem@mthvax.cs.miami.edu (a.e.mossberg) writes: >1300 subscribers to rec.mag.fsfnet Yes, quite a bit over the 100-200 needed to turn a mailing-list into a newsgroup... >1 message in the period. That, of course, depends on what period and what length of period that is sampled. There is lies, there is damned lies, and there is statistics... Why not look at the facts for the entire 1989 so far? rec.mag.otherrealms: 3 issues, totaling 700 K, the latest one 31 Oct - 3 Nov rec.mag.fsfnet: 6 issues, totaling 530 K, the latest one 3 Nov If you still refuse to believe in the existence of those 530 Kbytes, I could mail them to you, so that you may see them with your own eyes. I've got them right here on my disk... >Why can't it be deleted? Surely that one message could've gone to >rec.mag? >rec.mag itself averages about a message a week, since I stopped posting >magazine summaries/indices to it. (The last two days it's had alot >of traffic, 'cause my Greenpeace articles have been cross-posted to it). Who would deliberately mix up his subscriptions with the junk mail? Subscribing to rec.mag.otherrealms and rec.mag.fsfnet while unsubscribing to rec.mag has been one of my best signal-vs-noise-separators... >rec.mag.otherrealms has a bit more traffic, and the moderator is still >alive. ^^^ As there *is* postings in rec.mag.fsfnet: Do you believe in postings from the dead? Look out, grave-net is out to get you... >Certainly it has readership. But I didn't suggest that it be >deleted now, did I? Oh, I see. Article <1199@umigw.MIAMI.EDU> where you wrote -> Having a separate group for a magazine which appears less -> than monthly doesn't make any sense. is just a forgery... >With the continuing growth of newsgroups on USENET, I suggest that >there has to be a mechanism for removing outdated groups. >rec.mag.fsfnet is an ideal candidate for removal. What's "outdated"? There is readers, regular postings, absolutely no noise, and rather high-quality content. In my opinion it is one of the better newsgroups on the net. Hmm... it has to be the absense of noise. That's certainly outdated on the net these days. But I'm sure that if you want some flame-batches to "bring it up to date" it can be arranged... _______________________________________________________________________________ Disclaimer: Read what I intended, not what I wrote. _______________________________________________________________________________ _ : matoh@sssab.se / Mats Ohrman, : {mcvax,munnari,uunet}!sunic!sssab!matoh Scandinavian System Support AB, : Phone: Nat. 013-11 16 60 Box 535, S-581 06 Linkoping, Sweden : Int. +46 13 11 16 60