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From: TAR@MAINE.BITNET (Thom Rounds)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: new Pink Floyd newsgroup
Message-ID: <89346.135842TAR@MAINE.BITNET>
Date: 12 Dec 89 18:58:42 GMT
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In article <475@sci34hub.UUCP>, gary@sci34hub.UUCP (Gary Heston) says:
>
>I'd like to make a suggestion, here. We seem to have a proliferation
>of newsgroups under rec.music for individual artists and groups. These
>could be lumped together under the classification "shows" (since
>virtually all of them perform publicly at one time or another--
>Steeley Dan being a notable exception). There's currently four
>(r.m.beatles, r.m.dylan, r.m.gaffa, and r.m.gdead) and now a
>Pink Floyd newsgroup being proposed. As the net continues to grow
>(at least, we all hope so :-) ) there will probably be more.
>
    I don't see what's so bad about seperate newgroups. At least the traffic is
well sorted, and if you lump all of these together, you'll have one HUGE news-
group, and I certainly won't even look at a newsgroup > 200 articles. I don't
have time to sort through all of that stuff, like I already have to in
rec.music.misc and alt.rock-n-roll. That is the whole reason I am demanding a
new newsgroup (note the use of the word demand, not propose, I'm just demanding
nicely :->). And lumping them all together won't alleviate the problem of
traffic, it will all just wind up in one place instead of five. Get my point?

>How about creating a news sub-hierarchy under rec.music that all
>of these could be placed into? I suggest rec.music.shows to hold
>these individualized groups. Other possible names might be "bands",
>"artists", or "groups" (even the individual "names" generally carry
>a band with them; they just get together a new bunch for each tour).
>
    Pardon my impetuity, but how can these groups be 'individualized' if they
are all congealed and agglutinated?

>For those who have favorite shows, this would allow better tracking
>of what's going on, and make it easier to find out about other
>shows of interest. (Psssst...it'll also clean up the namespace a
>little, but don't tell anyone...)
>
    If I'm interested in a Grateful Dead show, I'll look in rec.music.gdead.
If I'm interested in Pink Floyd going on tour, I'll look in rec.music.pfloyd
when it's created, and while I live, it will be.

>Incidentally, I recommend the term "shows" because that's the term
>used in the industry--I used to be a theatrical support technician.
>(This job pays better and is less hassle--and there isn't any glory
>for the grunts in that business, either.)
>
    Golly, I'm just a simple layman, and I use the term show as well. I think
most people do.
    The bottom line to this whole thing is I am not going to give up now. On
December 17, the call for votes shall be put out. If it's cast down (which I
doubt, knowing all the support I've received through e-mail), I'll start over
again. As long as I have a telephone, I'm going to do what I can to put
rec.music.pfloyd in it's proper place on the net.

>--
>    Gary Heston     { uunet!sci34hub!gary  }    System Mismanager
>   SCI Technology, Inc.  OEM Products Department  (i.e., computers)
>      Hestons' First Law: I qualify virtually everything I say.
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