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From: griffith@con.Berkeley.EDU (Jim "The Big Dweeb" Griffith)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: Idiots! Re-propogate talk.bizarre!
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Date: 15 Dec 89 11:07:24 GMT
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In article <51171@ccicpg.UUCP> dave@ccicpg.UUCP ( Dave Hill) writes:
>In article <3295@hub.UUCP>, 6600pete@hub.UUCP writes:

[arguments back and forth about the suitability of talk.bizarre]

As much as I dislike talk.bizarre and the actions occasionally taken
collectively and individually by its subscribers, I have to defend the
group's existance.  I believe that the group serves a valuable function
by providing a group in which users can interact, blow off steam, play
around, and generally do whatever they want.  I would rather have the
group exist than have the group not exist and have those folks running
rampant in *other* groups (as a reader of a group that the t.b. folks
frequently target, I know that their presence outside of their group
would be disastrous...).

I've watched the Net grow, and with the growth, there is a
dissproportional increase of ignorant users who screw around without
realizing to what extent they damage groups' ability to relay
information.  Talk.bizarre's existance indirectly improves groups'
ability to relay information.

I realize that this large volume of what some consider to be simple
noise increases resource problems at many sites.  However, I think it
is contrary to the meaning of this network to restrict the flow of data
simply because some people don't approve of it.  What we do locally is
simply reduce the expiration dates for non-technical articles.
Limiting propagation is too close to censorship for my tastes,
regardless of the perceived "wastefulness" of the group.

Then again, I kind of jumped into this without following the discussion
that fclosely, so I might not know what the Hell I'm talking about...

				Jim

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