Path: utzoo!utstat!helios.physics.utoronto.ca!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde!uunet!intercon!amanda@mermaid.intercon.com From: amanda@mermaid.intercon.com (Amanda Walker) Newsgroups: news.software.b Subject: Re: Our friend, the GMT date. Message-ID: <1601@intercon.com> Date: 5 Dec 89 16:30:47 GMT References: <4364@helios.ee.lbl.gov> <14810@well.UUCP> <1989Dec3.210413.27043@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu> <56239@looking.on.ca> <1989Dec5.142032.7706@talos.uucp> Sender: news@intercon.com Reply-To: amanda@mermaid.intercon.com (Amanda Walker) Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation Lines: 38 In article <1989Dec5.142032.7706@talos.uucp>, kjones@talos.uucp (Kyle Jones) writes: > Again, if we always humor the laggards who don't want to actually > administer and maintain their news systems, then we're letting the > people who care the least about USENET have the most influence over it. Not so, because USENET is not made up solely of news admins. The people who care most about USENET are the people who use it. Oftentimes they simply don't have any effective influence over the people who are "maintaining" news on their systems. That being said, I've started thinking more and more seriously about the idea of starting to build "tomorrow's USENET". There are a lot of constraints imposed by universal compatibility with existing sites that would no longer exist if one were to write news from scratch today, such as: - 7-bit printable ASCII only - 32K maximum effective message size - broken cross-referencing (hi, Brad :-)) - using the UNIX file system as a database index and so on. Lots of people have started making noises about multi-media mail, news, and RFCs. Others have started or talked about things like gateways to and from other services (ClariNet, BIX, Compu$erve, MCI Mail, FAX, ...). Still other people have complained about the fact that USENET has moved from being a network testbed to an operational network. Well, maybe it's time to start talking about the next one. It seems impractical to try and overhaul USENET itself, but nothing's stopping us from doing something else that makes it obsolete... If there's enough energy out there to do things like TMNN, CNews, NN, and so on, it seems to me that there'd be enough to do something new. Amanda Walker InterCon Systems Corporation Purveyor of fine Macintosh networking software worldwide [:-)] --