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From: denise@dadla.WR.TEK.COM (Denise Caire)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: OUTDOOR Bird Plunder
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Date: 5 Dec 89 18:31:50 GMT
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Reply-To: denise@dadla.WR.TEK.COM (Denise Caire)
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To all you bird-loving-narrow-minded-insufferable idiots who read this
net, you all started the discussion about killing cats to keep them
from the birdies at your feeders.  When I asked a simple question of
how do I keep my cat in my yard when he's out, you all blew up.  You
are obviously intolerant of other people's opinions.

First of all, isn't name calling fun?  Had enough?  I know I have.  So,
I won't make any personal judgements of you as you have of me.
I am not:
   lazy
   irresponsible
   uncaring
   cruel
   uneducated

Anyone who knows me would laugh at using any of those adjectives to 
describe me.

I am going to be back in a few days with some facts about the following:
I am going to present you all with the facts about the following:
   cats - what are their good characteristics?
        - what are their bad ones?
        - what are the major causes of death?
   birds - what are the major causes of declining populations?

Any one of you mud-slinging birders could also do a little research
before spouting off but no, let's gang up on one of the only cat-likers
who also likes birds.  (My folks have 20 acres and all sorts of animals
such as deer and bear regularily forage there.  They have cats and bird
feeders and the cats have only ever gotten one bird in over 10 years
because of the location of the feeders.)

>Thank goodness ... I don't have to Read, Kill or in anyway Deal with 
>your opinion of what a CAT should be or do.

Well, I changed my mind, fella.  You want to shove your opinions of
what I should do as a cat owner in my face without even so much as
looking at the facts first.  Well, I'm going to get facts.

Why are you bird-lovers so down on cats?  I doubt that they really 
are as big of a leader in birdacide as you make them out to be.  
And, the general intolerance towards facts some of you display truely
lends credence to the term "bird-brain".  

I vow that if, through the course of my investigation, the facts prove
that cats are the leading cause of the falling bird population, then
I'll eat my (clear throat) hat.  (Almost said cat but I just couldn't.)

I'm sure that there are many other factors directly attributable
for the decline in bird population, such as pesticides, fertilizers,
toxic wastes, spreading civilization, unatural imbalance within the
animal kingdom, etc.

What are you doing about it as a professed bird-lover?  Do you belong
to any environmentally conscience group?  Greenpeace, Audubon Soceity,
other?  Get active.  Make a difference.  It's easy to sit back at your
terminal and call a cat lover names, but how about putting your words
into actions?

See you later,
Denise Caire
denise@dadla.WR.TEK.COM


Well, I shall return with some facts as outlined above.  I hope you 
can come armed with an open mind and some tolerance of others opinions.

>Obviously ALF's obsessed with cats too!   Hmmmmmm?
>CAN WE TALK ABOUT BIRDS FOR AWHILE?