Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcsun!ukc!newcastle.ac.uk!turing!jms From: jms@turing.newcastle.ac.uk (J.M. Spencer) Newsgroups: rec.birds Subject: Re: Hawks being mobbed by crows Summary: Don't worry about the hawk Keywords: hawks crows suburban raptors Message-ID: <1989Dec6.174327.13311@newcastle.ac.uk> Date: 6 Dec 89 17:43:27 GMT References: <9793@cloud9.Stratus.COM> Sender: news@newcastle.ac.uk Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE17RU Lines: 32 In <9793@cloud9.Stratus.COM> Mike Mahler write: > [ about 5 crows attacking a hawk ] I live within about 20 miles of the North Sea with the consequence that the gull population is 'healthy'. I also live in a suburban area which is over populated with corvids (because there is plenty of food, habitat, and no-one shoots them). At the start of the hawking season I am obliged to fly my redtail loose on a set of sports pitches near home. Within minutes the sky is full of crows (I've counted 40+) all intent on mobbing her. They are *very* quickly joined by a similar number if gulls. It usually results in her taking stand/refuge in a tree. These crows are mobbing her because they *know* she is unfit - they can see it from the way she flies. They also realise that she is not on a hunting trip and so give her a hard time. I'd like to take a .22 and sort them out, but I think Joe Public would kick up a fuss. Once she is fit, however, she tolerates their nonsense for 10 minutes and then takes to the wing. They mob her of course but the skies clear *completely* when she rolls over and shows her claws. They know she means business and you don't see a crow for the rest of the day. I've seen similar behavior with sparrowhawks. Starlings will mob a spar that they can see has a full crop (and hence isn't hunting), but they keep very quite when they spot a spar on the hunt. If a hawk is harried by the crow/starlings enough, it just get up and moves until, eventually, it is out of the crows territories and the crows leave it alone. I've never known of crows killing an adult hawk. J.M.Spencer@uk.ac.newcastle