Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!rutgers!att!cbnews!military From: mayse@cs.uiuc.edu (Chip Mayse) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Shoulder-fired SAM's Message-ID: <12098@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 8 Dec 89 04:13:45 GMT Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Lines: 24 Approved: military@att.att.com From: Chip Mayse In the "Yom Kippur War" of 1973, the Israeli Air Force experienced a number of incidents in which infrared-homing SAM-(7's, I think) struck the tailpipes of IAF McDonnell Douglas A-4's. Often all that happened was that the SAM blew a hole in the tailpipe, which probably decreased total engine thrust a bit but nothing more. If the SAM is to be fairly portable and handy, it can't have a very heavy warhead, so its lethality is thereby limited. Henry's point (about missile-launch reaction time) is well taken, too. I've seen USAF test footage (taken at Eglin AFB) of high-speed (about 550 knots), low-altitude weapon deliveries against ground targets. From the time the planes (F-100's and 105's, mostly) appeared as dots on the horizon until the entire vicinity of the camera was plastered with napalm and fragmentation bombs was typically only two or three seconds. If this becomes a common ground attack mode--as it can with weapons-delivery systems which use accurate target- and aircraft-positioning data--the effectiveness of small SAM's should be diminished. They're probably most effective against planes loitering about and looking around, rather than making quick, well- planned runs. Chip Mayse cmayse@ncsa.uiuc.edu