Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!att!cbnews!military From: gatech!mit-eddie!eddie.mit.edu!rabbit@uunet.UU.NET (Warren J. Madden) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Tom Clancy (actually, The Third World War) Message-ID: <12143@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 9 Dec 89 00:40:26 GMT References: <12095@cbnews.ATT.COM> Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Organization: MIT EE/CS Computer Facilities, Cambridge, MA Lines: 46 Approved: military@att.att.com From: gatech!mit-eddie!eddie.mit.edu!rabbit@uunet.UU.NET (Warren J. Madden) In article <12095@cbnews.ATT.COM> willner@cfa203.harvard.edu (Steve Willner) writes: > > >From: willner@cfa203.harvard.edu (Steve Willner) > ...[Stuff about Tom Clancy and accuracy deleted] > >If you want to see this sort of thing done right, read _The Third World >War_; it's by a retired general and is much more convincing. (My copy >has somehow disappeared, so I can't give author's name or publisher, >and there is some chance the title is slightly wrong. It was published >in the early 1980's, I think.) The title was indeed "The Third World War" and it was by General Sir John Hackett, a high level British NATO type. It described a hypothetical war between NATO and the Warsaw Pact occurring in August of 1985, and was written from the perspective of historians looking back on the war shortly after it had concluded. It was written in the very early 80's to try to point out what he saw as NATO's shortcomings. Hackett frequently says things like, "... as a result of the improvements instituted between 1980 and 1985, disaster was averted." Not as good a story as Red Storm Rising, but interesting reading nonetheless. A few years later Hackett put out a second book, entitled "The Third World War Revisited," in which he expanded upon the original and revised the scenario to take into account events that happened between the two books, such as the downfall of the Shah of Iran. This hypothetical war again pops up in Harold Coyle's book "Team Yankee." Coyle apparently got Hackett's permission to use the scenario in TTWW as the framework around which the story in TY revolves. IMHO, Team Yankee is an excellent book and well worth reading, especially if you enjoyed Red Storm Rising. Warren J. Madden rabbit@eddie.mit.edu ...!eddie!rabbit [mod.note: Urgh. I read _Team Yankee_ myself, and was decidedly underwhelmed. To give Coyle credit, I think he did an excellent job of portraying the fog of war and included many credible, if decisive mistakes; the stuff of which battles are made. But overall, I found the book disappointing. IMHO - Bill ]