Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: JRA102@psuvm.psu.edu (Jim Achuff) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Jesus Saves (was Re: Strangers in a Strange World Message-ID: Date: 11 Dec 89 08:32:32 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: Penn State University Lines: 29 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article , jrossi@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (The Electric Sol) says: >>As for your second statement, Christians have already avoided eternal >>punishment. That's why they're Christians. > >So theysaved themselves? Have you saved yourself? Do you know for a >fact that you are "saved?" Have you ever entertained a temptation, >but resisted it because you "feared" God? Are you certain that you >did so only because you're grateful to God for saving you, and not >because deep inside you feared the consequences of disobeying God. >The reasons for this are that I know many Christians who resist things >because, as they have stated, they fear Hell. No one can save him/herself. Only Christ can save us. And yes, I do know that I'm saved, because I believe that Crist died for my sins, and I have asked that his Spirit will dwell in me and guide me. The Spirit convicts me of my sins as they occur, and I know when I have committed a sin, but I also know that as soon as I acknowledge that sin, it is forgiven and forgotten, and I am once again white as snow through Christ. As far as fearing death, Hell; no, I'm not afraid, because my savior has already served my time in Hell, and death has been conquered. I know where I will spend eternity, how about you? ****** ** ** **** ** ** ****** | Jim Achuff | First you ** **** ** ** **** ** * | 125 Beaver Hall | must ** ** ****** ** ** | University Park, PA 16802 | believe ** **** ** ** ** ** * | (814) 862-6812 | Then you ****** ** ** **** ** ****** | JRA102@PSUVM.BITNET | can Jesus Christ God Son Savior | JRA102@PSUVM.PSU.EDU | Understand