Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!wuarchive!cs.utexas.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: jygabler@ucdavis.edu (Jason Gabler) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Jews - Our Christian Attitude - (was advice to David Buxton) Message-ID: Date: 11 Dec 89 08:54:17 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: University of California, Davis Lines: 59 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu I wrote..... >>I am a Christian.. >>Born in LI Jewish Hospital, circumcised on the 8th day and BarMitzvah'd at 13yrs >>and Accepted Jesus at 10yrs >>But I am definately not NOT Jewish. hall@vice.ico.tek.com (Hal Lillywhite) writes: > >I'm not sure exactly what you mean here..... What i meant was... or that is, to me David seemed to be saying, "Now that I have accepted Christ, I am no longer a Jew." I was giving a rebutle of his state through my own experience/feelings. I was born into a jewish family, raised as a Jew, and at a young age accepted Christ; I like to think of it as fuffilling my Jewishness :) . How much better the Jewish aspects of my life are with Jesus as part of them. I felt that David was missing out on a very special privilage (ahem, excuse me...) of being Jewish. > >Actually it appears to me that in New Testament times the Christians >were not arguing against Judism but were saying effectively, >"Christianity is the particular sect of Judism you should accept." >It seems to me that the question was not "Judism or Christianity" >but "Which branch of Judism: Christian, Saducee, Pharise, or >Essene?" The message of early Christianity seems to be, "This is >true Judism to follow the Messiah who has now come to earth, even >Jesus Christ." In this sense all Christians can consider themselves BINGO !!!! Our Scholarly Moderator said: >At any rate, I am not convinced that claiming to be Jewish is going to >increase communications with Jews. This is also true. I have heard of passages in the Talmud ( though it may be a fable that they are there) that Jesus is not on the 'bed of roses' side of Abraham's Bosom. Jews consider themselves very different from Christians, and take it offensively to be compared so. As a side note: When sharing Christ with Jews, be cautious as to not offend them in this way. If and when they learn to trust in Jesus, the connection between Christianity and Judaism will become quite clear. In Christ, Jason Gabler -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason Gabler Data Communications Group, Computing Services, UC Davis, Davis CA ccjason@castor.ucdavis.edu jygabler@ucdavis.edu edu!ucdavis!jygabler -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Whatever you do, do your work heartily, as for the Lord, rather than men. ><> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------