Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!rice!m2.csc.ti.com From: araja@m2.csc.ti.com (Ali Raja) Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam Subject: On the Meaning of "Muhammad the Seal of the Prophets" (I of VI) Message-ID: <3450@brazos.Rice.edu> Date: 7 Dec 89 12:23:54 GMT References: <3388@brazos.Rice.edu> Sender: root@rice.edu Lines: 87 Approved: shari@wpi.edu In article <3388@brazos.Rice.edu> hakim@bigq.enet.dec.com writes: >One is prone to slip into the pitfall of literalism, when one's faith becomes >founded on imitation and one's religion becomes an inherited necessity in one's >life, rather than an independently investigated reality. Jalalu'ddin-iRumi' >[rest deleted] This seem to be a cogent argument at first glance. Let me try to restate and see what you mean. What you seem to be arguing is that a statement can be interpreted in various contexts, and there are many different contexts to intepret a statement in. This seem fine to me; consider that extreme literalism is just another context with which to attempt analysis. >The highly metaphorical nature of the Scripture often becomes a very challenging >issue for the believers to determine the truest meaning behind every verse of >the Qur'an. There is no indication that the Scripture is so highly metaphorical that it can not be interpreted by a human being with ordinary human intelligence. >Remember the well known Tradition, where His Honor Muhammad says: >"We say one word, and by it We mean seventy and two things." There are manifold >meaning associated with each verse of the Qur'an. And an ocean of wisdom is >laid hidden within each one of those meanings I think that you are falling into the same trap that you warned us about; of literalist interpretations. When he meant that phrase, he did not obviously intend it to be interpreted to mean that way for EACH and EVERY phrase that he said. I am willing to warrant that many of the verses in the Quran are obvious.. To misquote somewhat "This is a plain Scripture". Your statements here seem to be little other than circumstantial evidence to prove your main points. >I'd like to emphasize that I am not, God forbid, saying this in a sarcastic way. >My sole purpose is to point out to a natural pitfall which forms with time in >any religion. The ways to deal with the "natural pitfall" is make absolutely sure that the original text of the Scriptures does not change, neither does the meaning of the words that the Scripture is written in change. In this fashion the Scriptures can interpreted by each and every generation of scholars to the benefit of the society. >After the denials and denunciations which they uttered, (i.e. referring to Jews >and Christians), they protested saying: "No independent Prophet, according to >our Scriptures, should arise after Moses and Jesus to abolish the Law of the >Divine Revelation. Nay, he that is to be made manifest (i.e. the Promised One) >must needs fulfill the Law." Thereupon this verse, indicative of all the divine >themes, and testifying to the truth that the flow of the grace of the >All-Merciful can never cease, was revealed (i.e. by Muhammad): "And Joseph came >to you aforetime with clear tokens, but ye ceased not to doubt of the message >with which He came to you, until, when He died, ye said, `God will by no means >rise up a Messenger after Him.' Thus God misleadeth him who is the transgressor >the doubter." [Qur'an 40-34] Therefore, understand from this verse and know of >a certainty that the people in every age, clinging to a verse of the Book, have >uttered such vain and absurd sayings, contending that no Prophet should again >be made manifest to the world. Even as the Christian divines who, holding fast >to the verses of the Gospel...have sought to explain that the law of the Gospel >shall at no time be annulled, and that no independent Prophet shall again be >made manifest, unless He confirmeth the Law of the Gospel. Most of the people >have become afflicted with the same spiritual disease. In other words, anyone who does not accept that there has to be a successor to Mohammed has become afflicted to with a spiritual disease? :-). You are trying to draw this parallel - the Prophets are similar to each other, eg. Mohammed and Joseph are similar to each other. Now, if someone says that there is no successor to the Prophet, then he is lying. A Muslim listener will accept this fact. But, then you try to draw an analogy between people who do not accept Mohammad's successors and people who do not accept Joseph's successors. Your analogy falls apart here. There is no reason to make this extrapolation. >Even as thou witness how the people of the Qur'an, like unto the people of the >old, have allowed the word "Seal of the Prophets" to veil their eyes. And yet, >they themselves testify to this verse: "None knoweth the interpretation thereof >but God and they that are well-grounded in knowledge." [Qur'an 3:7]' True enough. But, with all due respect, there is no indication that people who accept Bahai'ullah are well-grounded in knowledge and those who do not accept him are not. Neither is the converse true. As such, I fail to see the relevance of your above posting.