Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!jbw From: jbw@samsung.COM (Jeremy B. Wohlblatt) Newsgroups: alt.activism Subject: Re: US Invades Panama Message-ID: <10588@samsung.samsung.com> Date: 18 Jan 90 18:32:29 GMT References: <9509.1571.forumexp@mts.rpi.edu> Organization: Samsung Software America, Inc. Lines: 42 Greg_d._Moore@mts.rpi.edu (Commander Krugannal) writes: > In article <9944@samsung.samsung.com> jbw@samsung.COM (Jeremy B. Wohlblatt) > >>>i don't think that noriega could have retained power without substantial > >>>minority support. if noriega was as universally hated as you suggest, there > >>>would have been a successful revolution long ago. > > In article <434@cdin-1.UUCP> fred@cdin-1.UUCP (Fred Rump) writes: > >>As a perfect example of the falacy of the above simply mention Rumania. > all i said was that people in power must have some significant friends. no one can survive if 97% of the people they rule hate them. now, ceaucescu wasn't very popular, but there must have been a substantial minority that was benefitting from his rule. > States: Tim Maroney, Mac Software Consultant, sun!hoptoad!tim, tim@toad.com > >Eh? In case you didn't notice, Rump, a successful revolution toppled > > the guy. > > Yea, Tim, after how many years? I think Fred is making the point > that as much as the people hate a guy, it may take them several > generations to topple him. And from what I have heard, Cescacue (sp?) > makes Noregia look like a nice guy! if a dictator has no real friends, any credible coup attempt will do the leader in. ceaucescu had friends. yes, a big majority opposed him, but he must have had friends. > Oh, and lets not forget Cuba, eh? i don't follow. are you implying that castro has no support in cuba? i'm sure he does. i'm not claiming a majority, but a significant minority at least. one of the reason the bay of pigs invasion failed was because popular cuban support for an overthrow didn't materialize. -- jeremy -- these opinions might not be those of my employer. they might not even be mine. jeremy b. wohlblatt: samsung software america, inc. uucp: {decvax!{gsg,cg-atla},uunet,ulowell}!ginosko!jbw internet: jbw@ginosko.samsung.com