Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!image.soe.clarkson.edu!daemon From: nelson@SUN.SOE.CLARKSON.EDU (Russ Nelson) Newsgroups: alt.activism Subject: Akwesasne Notes -- Basic Call to Consciousness 1977 Message-ID: <9001200628.AA07325@sun.soe.clarkson.edu.> Date: 20 Jan 90 06:35:46 GMT References: <9001200619.AA09411@milton.u.washington.edu> Sender: daemon@sun.soe.clarkson.edu Reply-To: nelson@clutx.clarkson.edu Organization: Clarkson University, Potsdam, NY Lines: 21 you are too God-damned rational about this entire discussion Try this idea, jerk: "The Real is *not* the Rational." And, after you've given away all of your material wealth, and lived on the street like the poor folks. Then I'll hear you out. As you pontificate from your philosophy armchair, your position is like the Pharisees of Mathew 23. So you *do* think that poor people should steal private property that is left in a public place. At least, you haven't denied it. Why are you upset that I'm holding you to something you said? Are you one of those people who cannot admit error? My roommate in college was like that. We were playing spades, and he screwed up. I asked him, "What did you think you were doing there???" He said, "I had a secret plan." I said, that's nonsense -- you made a mistake. He got *very* angry and said "Okay, I fucked up, okay?"