Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!bionet!arisia!sgi!shinobu!odin!maddog!pkr From: pkr@maddog.sgi.com (Phil Ronzone) Newsgroups: alt.individualism Subject: Re: Objectivism as religion Message-ID: <2846@odin.SGI.COM> Date: 16 Jan 90 19:27:14 GMT References: <1989Dec18.204853.12376@sli.com> <1989Dec19.231701.11722@sli.com> <2244@odin.SGI.COM> <1989Dec28.234616.10122@sli.com> Sender: news@odin.SGI.COM Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA Lines: 27 In article Thomas Gramstad writes: >About the question of aliens who had "supra-volition" and "supra-rationality" >and decided that since humans don't have these, they could eat, kill etc. >do anything they want with human beings (some topic, yeah) -- > >The point here is a misconception about rights. A person's rights are not >defined relative to other beings. They are conditions of existence for the >being in question and they are, within that context, absolute. The aliens >might have the power to do anything they wanted to do with human beings, >but they wouldn't have the right to do it. Might does not make right. Yeag - THAT's a contradiction I've been unsuccessfully wrestling with for a long time. It may NOT be immoral for a collective hive mind to much Earthlings. Yet it would be WRONG. The collision between morality and right/wrong needs to be removed. ------Me and my dyslexic keyboard---------------------------------------------- Phil Ronzone Manager Secure UNIX pkr@sgi.COM {decwrl,sun}!sgi!pkr Silicon Graphics, Inc. "I never vote, it only encourages 'em ..." -----In honor of Minas, no spell checker was run on this posting---------------