Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!ucsd!ucsdhub!hp-sdd!apollo!nelson_p From: nelson_p@apollo.HP.COM (Peter Nelson) Newsgroups: alt.individualism Subject: re Phil Ronzone's stereo Message-ID: <4813c7da.20b6d@apollo.HP.COM> Date: 16 Jan 90 23:20:00 GMT Sender: root@apollo.HP.COM Distribution: usa Organization: Hewlett-Packard Apollo Division - Chelmsford, MA Lines: 36 Y'know, when this thread started it was MY stereo we were talking about. Now its Phil Ronzone's. I guess that answers the question about how many it takes... (Actually it just confirms my claim that its all social consensus.) Richard H. Graham posts... >In article <2818@odin.SGI.COM> pkr@maddog.sgi.com (Phil Ronzone) writes: >-- I have a counter-question: how many people does it take to >--agree to treat "your" stereo as "yours" in order to make it >--yours? Just you? Ten? Ten million? >- >-The answer is one. AND only one. >- >... >-Social contract - justification of theft by a few by invoking the specter >- of the many. See Divine Right of Kings and Fascism. > >This is all well and good, but I'm still waiting for your basis of the >concept of ownership. > >If there is some basis of a concept of ownership that is more basic and >more substantial, I'd like to hear it. Don't hold your breath. Phil will probably call you some names or make some catcalls but don't expect him to actually *explain* anything he says. That's not his style. ---Peter