Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!ucsd!ucsdhub!hp-sdd!apollo!nelson_p From: nelson_p@apollo.HP.COM (Peter Nelson) Newsgroups: alt.individualism Subject: Re: Phil Ronzone's stereo Message-ID: <48176d79.20b6d@apollo.HP.COM> Date: 17 Jan 90 16:44:00 GMT Sender: root@apollo.HP.COM Distribution: usa Organization: Hewlett-Packard Apollo Division - Chelmsford, MA Lines: 34 Phil Ronzone posts... >I DON'T decide WHO has property rights. That may be the burning >issue in your mind, but not mine. >I ASSERT that my property is my property and that no one has >the right to take it without my permission. ^^^^^ In other words, Phil doesn't care WHO has property rights as long as HE has property rights. Actually, I don't really disagree with him on this; in practical terms it is this understanding that results in the social consensus that produces most systems of rights. Nevertheless, when that consensus goes away so do the rights. If Phil was a Jew in NAZI Germany, or a Panamanian under Noriega, or a Panamanian in the line of U.S. fire in the recent invasion, he could "ASSERT" his rights until he was blue in the face and it wouldn't have done him any good. The world has seen lots of common graves filled with people who have asserted their rights in such a manner. Of course, Phil would say that this is wrong. Wrong by his standards or Peter Nelson's? No, absolutely wrong; wrong by universal standards; dead wrong. How does he know this? He won't tell us -- I guess that's just Phil's little secret. ---Peter