Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!mcgill-vision!quiche!utility From: utility@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca (Ronald BODKIN) Newsgroups: alt.individualism Subject: Re: Libertarians(?) For Life at Jan 22 March On Washington Keywords: Roe. V. Wade Anniversary Message-ID: <1998@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca> Date: 18 Jan 90 04:53:33 GMT References: <7352@cbnewsh.ATT.COM> <3168@ge-dab.GE.COM> Reply-To: utility@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca (Ronald BODKIN) Distribution: na Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada Lines: 18 In article <3168@ge-dab.GE.COM> byrnes@sunwhere1.UUCP (Arthur Byrnes) writes: >This is damaging to the Libertarian movement, since the march is in >support of those who want LAWS MADE, not in support of the girl who >doesn't want to have an abortion. I think the point is this -- the individual in question believes that a fetus has rights. I don't agree, but I'm not exactly the same in my view of rights -- I don't see why a vegetable should have rights, or even a severely retarded person. Of course this gets into a new round of argument, but I don't see why you feel the need to utterly bust on this individual for "making a law", since they don't regard this issue as the same as someone doing something stupid and harmful to themself. In the end, I think the person should explain why she considers fetus' to have rights, maybe she can untangle herself -- but I think alot of people here have somewhat tangled notions of human rights and more particularily have inherited Rand's mystic view of these(!) Ron p.s. It should be interesting to hear why a fetus is to beaccorded human rights without "God made its soul" as the reason.