Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!iuvax!cica!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!snorkelwacker!bloom-beacon!mcgill-vision!quiche!utility From: utility@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca (Ronald BODKIN) Newsgroups: alt.individualism Subject: Re: Kennedy wasn't the first. Message-ID: <1999@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca> Date: 18 Jan 90 05:09:56 GMT References: <89348.161937BROWN@NCSUVM.BITNET. <1372@becker.UUCP. <461@smcnet.UUCP. <51@zds-ux.UUCP. <467@smcnet.UUCP. <67@zds-ux.UU <2540@odin.SGI.COM. <90008.000413HERSCH@AUVM.BITNET. <1856@osc.COM> <21642@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Reply-To: utility@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca (Ronald BODKIN) Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada Lines: 32 In article <21642@unix.cis.pitt.edu> rhg2@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Rich Graham) writes: >This reminds me of the econmic pressure = censorship debate that springs >up every time some group organizes a ban on advertizers of an >"offensive" tv program. > >At any rate, I think a big part of the "why shouldn't they be communists" >question was "why are you so doggone happy to see the communists >persecuted." You do seem awfully satisfied with the fact that the >destruction of these people's careers, reputations, and lives is >protected by the Constitution. Are you similarly pleased when the >victims of these rights are blacks or homosexuals or jews or etc.? Well I can't imagine how you draw a link between communists, whose raison-d' etre is to IMPOSE controls on other people's lives and advance the cause of statism and groups which HAPPEN to be unpopular for irrational reasons. Frankly, I am DELIGHTED when communists suffer heavily in private dealings. Just as it pleases me when a man who successfully overcomes a conviction due to a technicality is nonetheless ostracized. To some extent, a group which advocates the communist position is almost at the point of advocating criminalactivity and the fact thatthey'd like to get democratic support is totally irrelevant. However, its too dangerous to pursue these people along these lines, although if communists were elected it would be people's foremost requirement to oppose them in any sense. And people should oppose the current crushing march of statism in the West, but its slow and there isn't a nucleus of minds able to deal with the issue. And, before you whine about the destruction these bastards have brought on themselves by their offensive views, how about the destruction that socialism and general government regulation has wrecked on so many lives, both directly and (more usually) as a very subtle, persistent drain. Ron