Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!rhg2 From: rhg2@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Rich Graham) Newsgroups: alt.individualism Subject: Re: MY :-) stereo Message-ID: <21701@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Date: 18 Jan 90 15:31:39 GMT References: <2310@odin.SGI.COM> <12569@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> <2356@odin.SGI.COM> <1990Jan13.090428.25775@agate.berkeley.edu> <2818@odin.SGI.COM> <8ZggXmy00W0TM96LF=@andrew.cmu.edu> <2847@odin.SGI.COM> <21673@unix.cis.pitt.edu> <2908@odin.SGI.COM> Reply-To: rhg2@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Rich Graham) Distribution: usa Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh, Comp & Info Services Lines: 32 In article <2908@odin.SGI.COM> pkr@maddog.sgi.com (Phil Ronzone) writes: >In many discussions of property rights, where the concept of ownership is >asserted as inherent, the lifeboat cases ALWAYS pop up. > >I mean, why is it that people so quickly jump to, "well, what about the case >where you have two guys in a lifeboat and only one ...". Because a lot of things seem to make perfect sense when only common everyday occurances are considered. Newtonian physics works great when you're talking about objects larger than grains of sand and smaller than mountians (eg 99.99% of everyday life). So it becomes real easy to start accepting trends that are based on common events as absolutes. When you only consider examples that concern common events ("...say I grow some corn on my land...") of course the common rules will fit like a glove. It's only when you try to plot the course of photons through a gravitational field, or describe what happens to land that "nobody owns", or imagine societies with differing concepts of property interacting that you wonder if Newtonian physics is'nt just a useful set of approximations, and maybe the system of ownership that I've been taught from birth is just a social convention that works for me mainly because everyone around me is following the same rules. I hope this helps explain why I (and others) approach concepts in this way. None of this, however, alters the fact that for some reason you've chosen not to answer the question that was posed. -- Richard H. Graham University of Pittsburgh - CIS rhg2@unix.cis.pitt.edu