Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!jarthur!uci-ics!ucla-cs!smcnet!byoder From: byoder@smcnet.UUCP (Brian Yoder) Newsgroups: alt.individualism Subject: Re: Why bash communism? Summary: Reasoning? What about the facts? Message-ID: <525@smcnet.UUCP> Date: 19 Jan 90 05:51:01 GMT References: <89348.161937BROWN@NCSUVM.BITNET> <1372@becker.UUCP> Organization: Santa Monica College Telecom, Santa Monica, CA. Lines: 32 In article , nelson@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Russ Nelson) writes: > In article <2588@odin.SGI.COM> pkr@maddog.sgi.com (Phil Ronzone) writes: > Of course, [communism in Hollywood] decidedly affected movie > scripts. Name any movie that had a positive image of businessmen or > landlords as an example? (Grapes of Wrath, It's a Wonderful Life, > Wizard of OZ,...) > These films were made shortly after the worst of many depressions > suffered in the US. You seem to be surprised that films that cast > businessmen and landlords in a bad light were popular. Your > accusation of communism for promulgating these movies reflects badly > on your reasoning abilities. Why is it a sign of bad reasoning to conclude that communists in the 1940s contributed to these trends when so many were self-admitted communists? It isn't reasoning that Phil used to conclude that these guys were commies. I am sure that the view of businessmen as employers and producers of wealth (just what people wanted more of during the depression) must have been alien to communists, but what about everyone else? Such views must have been held by some portion of the population (at least the businessmen and landlords themselves...probably many others too) but you would never know it from the movies. I have a hard time thinking of a pro-businessman movie in more modern times either. Can anyone else think of one off hand? Brian -- -<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>- | Brian Yoder | answers *byoder(); | | uunet!ucla-cs!smcnet!byoder | He takes no arguments and returns the answers | -<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-