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From: pkr@maddog.sgi.com (Phil Ronzone)
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Subject: Re: Phil Ronzone's stereo
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Date: 18 Jan 90 19:30:16 GMT
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In article <13022@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> roger@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig) writes:
>So let's say I DON'T have the right to steal food to save my life when
>I'm in extremis, or to use a vehicle without permission to get an
>emergency case to the hospital.  
>
>Will you fault me for doing so anyway?  


Congratulations! The first small step to maybe understanding what it is about.

No, I wouldn't fault you. I'd expect you to make recompense where needed.
I am morally allowed to use whatever force is necessary to prevent you
from violating my property, if I so desire. If you needed by car
to get to the hospital, sure, I'd lend it to you. If you "borrowed" it
without my permission, I'd understand.

If you wanted to all the food I had because you were starving, I'd
help out. If you wanted all my food all the time, you'd better be
prepared to die.

Your NEED is NO CLAIM on anybody else!

Even if your life depended on it!

A poor starving wretch in India could live 20-40 years longer, if that person
could have half my yearly salary each year. Buying imporved food (or even
just the food), better (or any) medical service, housing, clothing, ...

If you took ALL my $$$, maybe 2 or 3 people could live where they otherwise
die.

Or, maybe if we just took all my $$$ and gave to the poor in America, maybe
we could add 10 years to the lives of a dozen homeless.

And so on.

I wasn't born rich. Too bad.
I wasn't born extremely poor. Thank [local gods name here].

I need or want things. You need or want things. That does NOT give us a
claim on anybody else.
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Phil Ronzone   Manager Secure UNIX           pkr@sgi.COM   {decwrl,sun}!sgi!pkr
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