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From: pkr@maddog.sgi.com (Phil Ronzone)
Newsgroups: alt.individualism
Subject: Re: MY :-) stereo
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Date: 19 Jan 90 19:53:53 GMT
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In article <1990Jan19.100315.28073@agate.berkeley.edu> gsmith@garnet.berkeley.edu (Gene W. Smith) writes:
>  What kind of trouble? Would you call the police? If you did,
>then it seems to me you are buying into the social contract to
>that extent at least. Can you now claim taxation is
>theft, etc.?

If you steal my car, I will go and recover it. If you initiate force to prevent
me from recovering my car, I will defend myself with a greater amount of force.


>  Nor can you make cars and stereos by yourself. You acquire them
>by playing a part in a very complex society which *can* make cars
>and stereos. Your stereo is not like Crusoe's parasol, and your
>claim to it as an autonomous individual without reference to
>society seems preposterous to me. It is "yours", but by yourself
>you can neither acquire it nor keep it.

Eh? I'm not an actor. I don't "play parts". I DO exchange my goods
and services for other goods and services. Complexity of the
society has nothing to do with.

If I'm a primitive who found a pretty gold nugget in a stream and
I trade it to another primitive I meet for some food, HOW is that
any different in principal from going to the market and trading
pretty pieces of green paper for food?


>"A good punch in the nose IS often effective communication"-- Ken Arndt

By their words shall ye know them ....




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