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From: rhg2@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Rich  Graham)
Newsgroups: alt.individualism
Subject: Re: re Phil Ronzone's stereo
Message-ID: <21734@unix.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 19 Jan 90 18:23:15 GMT
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Reply-To: rhg2@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Rich  Graham)
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(Phil Ronzone) writes:
>So if I choose not to buy a product, say, Coors beer, because I don't
>like the politics of the owner of Coors then I'm censoring or
>violating some type of freedom????

Nope.  You're showing your true colors concerning tolerance of opposing
political views.  You're discriminating economically against someone on
the basis of political ideology.  I don't think that's appropriate any
more than doing so on the basis of race.

>And I can't get a bunch of my friends to boycott a product either?

I don't know how the word "can't" got into this.  Of course you can.
Your ability to do so is (and should be) protected by the laws of the
US.

>So everybody that is not buying Exxon products because of the
>oil spill is censoring Exxon, right?

No.  They're discriminating economically against a corporation on the
basis of its business practices. 

Here's an example.  If you were organizing a boycott and wanted me to
participate, I would do so if your reasons had to do with the product (an
unsafe toy, gasses that deteriorate the ozone...) or some other
practices of the corporation (destruction of the environment,
discriminatory hiring practices, ...).  I wouldn't participate if the
boycott were due to the ethnic background, sexual practices, religious
or political beliefs of the employees or owners of the company.  And if
that were the case, I would (as I'm doing now) try to persuade you to
give up your boycott and fight your battle in a different arena.

As another example, my decision on whether or not to hire you as a unix
system manager would depend on your ability to do the job, not on the
ideas you posted to alt.individualism.

>I don't tolerate socialism, communism, fascism, Pol Pot, N. Korea,
>Vietnam, PRC, and Albania.

So what form does that intolerance take?  Say I was a communist.
Would you:
	A. Kill me.
	B. Beat me.
	C. Persuade people to shun my business practices to the point of
my financial ruin.
	D. Persuade people to reject me as a tennant to the point of my
becoming homeless.
	E. Argue with me, and try to change my opinions.
	F. Not vote for me or my candidates.
	G. Not vote for candidates who might enact some of my ideas.
-- 
Richard H. Graham
University of Pittsburgh - CIS
rhg2@unix.cis.pitt.edu