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From: chris@toontown.UUCP (Chris Andersen ("The Dangerous Guy"))
Newsgroups: alt.sex
Subject: Re: Sex, Babies, and Orgasm
Message-ID: <954@toontown.UUCP>
Date: 16 Jan 90 18:47:36 GMT
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Reply-To: chris@toontown.UUCP (Chris Andersen ("The Dangerous Guy"))
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In article <1024@khijol.UUCP> erc@khijol.UUCP (Edwin R. Carp) writes:
>>In article <678@banyan.UUCP> gil@banyan.com writes:
>>>...Strictly from the point
>>>of conception there is no _need_ for a female orgasm.
>
>But if there wasn't, what would be the point of having intercourse, other than
>to have babies?  None.  Therefore, it has to be there for some purpose, right?

But some women don't have orgasms, yet they still have sex and enjoy it.
Orgasm is not the only pleasurable aspect of sex.

There's lots of things in the human body that (as far as we know) aren't
needed (the appendix for one).  Evolution usually removes some bodily feature 
only if that feature is somehow a detriment to the survival of the species
(and it encourages the development of features that make it easier to survive).
However, it doesn't really care that much about "extra baggage".

The female orgasm may just be a side-effect of the male orgasm since the male
of the species develops from the originally female embryo when testosterone
(have I got the right hormone?) is introduced.

>Don't believe everything you hear.  Sex was not designed to produce babies
>*only* -- otherwise, (1) it wouldn't feel so damn GOOD, and (2) women would
>get preg-o the first time they slept with a man.  Statistically, it happens
>1 out of every 6 tries, given a lack of contraceptive devices, etc.

(1) I've often felt that sex feels good because if it didn't animals with a
higher brain structure (and therefore more aware of their environment) would
never participate in it.  After all, think about how much WORK is involved
in the activity.  I hate exercise, but I'll do that kind of exercise because
I *enjoy* it.

(2) There might be a good reason for the 1 out of 6 tries: if women got 
pregnant at the drop of the hat the human population might grow to fast
and starve itself out of existence.  Evolution no only encourages growth,
it may also work against growth when that growth may be a disadvantage to
the species (some theorize that death itself is an evolutionary mechanism).
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