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From: afhampe@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Andrew Hampe)
Newsgroups: alt.sex
Subject: Re: Re: date rape
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Date: 17 Jan 90 07:14:41 GMT
References: <25643@cup.portal.com> <7050@tank.uchicago.edu>
Reply-To: afhampe@uhccux.UUCP (Andrew Hampe)
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In article <7050@tank.uchicago.edu> toto@tank.uchicago.edu (Sandra Jessica Smyth) writes:
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>I simply cannot believe that you honestly believe that if "a woman who
>is who is "known to have a free view of sex invites attention of
>someone" and then "if she lets things go so far that the guy is already
>excited," then that excitment in *any way* makes rape understandable. 

forgive my militaristic attitudes, but they are the rules that I live with. 
One of which is, DO NOT TO LOSE MY HEAD under fire. I have
recently returned to being single and I am amused at was passes as "acceptable"
behavior... but old training dies hard. 

	Over in a.s.b they have discussed basic guidelines for better
bondage, and I have taken the time to pass this information on to
friends. Which is not at all easy when said friend is Erotically
Attractive and we are not "chaperoned." (do they do that any more? :-))

	As I have argued with people here, there is more to the old
adage, "This is My Rifle, this is My Gun, This is for Fighting, and
this is for Fun." I would not expect a kid with NO BRAINS raised in a
sea of RAMBO fantasies to understand that rifles really are complex
and can hurt people. So we don't give them out till they know what to
do with them... Unfortunately the same is not true of guns...

>[dog argument deleted]

>Bruce, there is simply no rape which can in anyway be made
>even "a little more understandable" because the woman was
>perceived to be a tease. Rape is a brutal, brutal crime, and a man is

Excuse me but I thought that by the end of the 80's the word had leaked
out that Rape is a crime of violence, and not merely hormones gone mad,
or have I missed something?

>not an animal. He has higher reason and is able to understand right 
>and wrong. And rape is wrong; rape is never, never "a little
>more understandable."
>
>-- 
>Sandra Jessica Smyth                    Believer in lost causes
>toto@tank.uchicago.edu

just trying to figure out which way the wind blows. My SO has decided
to "ship over" and make a carrear out of it all. So I'm beached and
back to being a silly civilian... so accept my limited knowledge of
things, i've been out of circulation for some time.

ciao
drieux
.